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Posted: Jun 5, 2025 - 11:23am


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Posted: Jan 28, 2025 - 3:56pm

Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation – The White House
Trump signs executive order to curtail gender transition for people under 19
Move is latest push by Trump to reverse policies set by the Biden administration to protect transgender people
Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 6:13pm

 R_P wrote:

10 animals that can fly



Are you ok?
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 6:05pm

 Steely_D wrote:
Not sure if you realize that humans weren’t on the list.

10 animals that can fly

We're not wildlife.
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 6:03pm

 R_P wrote:

Not sure if you realize that humans weren’t on the list.
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 5:53pm

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Just because one feels like something doesn't make them what they feel like.

A rose is a rose is a rose ...

We've seen this horror movie before.

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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 5:37pm

 rgio wrote:
 blah, blah ... The more angry they can make Kurt at everyone's inability to accept sperm vs. egg donors, the more he'll let them destroy programs he and others need without any resistance. He's too busy fighting the holy wars that are going to destroy the country to care that his leaders are emptying the treasury in broad daylight. 
 

kurtster wrote:

  What one feels like is irrelevant when it comes to deciding rights based on gender.

 

Since when did feelings get Constitutional rights ?

Just because one feels like something doesn't make them what they feel like.

A rose is a rose is a rose ...
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 4:24pm

10 animals that can change sex
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 11:37am

I’ll go with science and nature.  
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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 10:54am

But the groomerzs!!!!11!1!

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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 10:33am

 rgio wrote:
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It's all performance art.

He's too busy fighting the holy wars that are going to destroy the country to care that his leaders are emptying the treasury in broad daylight. 





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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 5:02am

 kurtster wrote:
... Genotype vs. phenotype ...

This is why the majority of our democracy agrees with democrat policy, and elects republicans.

Life begins at inception 2.0

This is an incredibly small issue in terms of those effected, but it draws hard lines that pander to religion, regional culture, economic inequity and the government stepping in to protect the rights of a tiny group... and half of the country goes ape shit.

Somehow, a persons individual right to be called whatever the hell they want, and dress in whatever makes them comfortable, draws laser focus from the "free speech" and "gun toting" crowd (mentioned in a few amendments in some document they removed from the White House website on Monday).  To play to the emotions, they talk about your daughter losing the all important State Group C basketball championship or a theoretical rapist in the girls bathroom in high school, but it's all just meant to make you angry and join the team.

If they cared so much about girls and choice, they wouldn't care so much about preventing abortions.

If they really cared about the lives of the unborn, they wouldn't limit healthcare to any women who was expecting.

If they really cared about the children they find so precious, they'd support their parents staying home after the birth for an extended period of time, kindergarten and programs for all of them, and would support buying them a few meals a week in the summer for those kids who are hungry.

It's all performance art.

Get Kurt and others angry that people are taking his money to support pregnant trans teenagers with odd pronouns and the wrong haircut... that wins elections.  The added bonus, he's so angry with "wars at home" he's been told they're winning, that he won't care that a felon is going to destroy to sell of the furnishings of the nation to the highest bidders, and keep the commission for himself.

The more angry they can make Kurt at everyone's inability to accept sperm vs. egg donors, the more he'll let them destroy programs he and others need without any resistance. He's too busy fighting the holy wars that are going to destroy the country to care that his leaders are emptying the treasury in broad daylight. 


miamizsun

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Posted: Jan 24, 2025 - 4:15am

 Steely_D wrote:

The media/nation is on a roll trying to always partition people into a group, for some reason. Instant labelling.
Are they white/black/etc?
Are they male/female/etc?
Are they Christian/Jewish/etc?
Are they Democrat/Republican/etc?

And - tongue in cheek - it reminds me of Randy Newman so that I wonder when news reports will start subdividing people based on height. "Was the killer a short person?" Because we all hate someone, for some characteristic, so we might as well focus on some other one as an identification of horribleness while we're in the groove.


true, it gets ratings/attention
are chronic hcps' a sign of toxicity?
nobody is perfect and we all get caught up from time to time
but what do we do if someone gets stuck there?
this may help
because irony


High-conflict personalities are fundamentally adversarial personalities. They don’t see their part in their own problems and instead are preoccupied with blaming others—possibly you. In this series.


They all have the basic HCP pattern of: 1) targets of blame, 2) a lot of all-or-nothing thinking, 3) unmanaged emotions, and 4) extreme behaviors. In addition, they also have traits of five personality disorders. Some may just have traits and others have a full disorder. This can make them very difficult, but also more predictable. Here is a very brief overview of some of their common patterns of behavior:

1. Antisocial HCPs: These are also known as sociopaths or psychopaths—aggressive people without a conscience. Antisocial personalities can be extremely charming and deceptive, combined with being extremely cruel to get what they want. Antisocial HCPs blame their targets for causing their many frustrations, interfering with their schemes or simply because they got in the way. They are con artists, often involved in criminal schemes and loyal to no one—not even each other. (This does not include people who just "don't feel social" this weekend.)

They punish their targets in relationships and then expect sex and affection even after hurting them. They seem to be more biologically energized to harm people without remorse. For example, the Texas shooter in yesterday’s mass church shooting was reportedly angry at his estranged wife’s parents, and so went to kill everyone at the church they attended. Would he fit here?

2. Narcissistic HCPs: Most people are familiar with the self-absorption of narcissistic personalities, but narcissistic HCPs focus intensely on their targets of blame. They are constantly putting them down, often in public, in an effort to prove they are superior beings. They use a lot of insults with their partners, yet at the same time they demand admiration and affection. They claim their behavior is justified because others treat them so unfairly. Yet they have no real empathy for their targets of Blame or anyone else. In the workplace, they are known for “kicking down” (on those below them) and “kissing up” (to those above them), so that management won’t realize how bad they really are. Bullying and sexual harassment may fit right into their drive for power and superiority.

3. Borderline HCPs: They are preoccupied with their close relationships and cling to them. However, sooner or later they will treat their partners, children, parents, co-workers, bosses, and others as targets of blame for any perceived abandonment. Their rages can be quite dangerous: physically, emotionally, legally, financially, reputationally or otherwise. Yet their moods swing both ways, so you may feel whip-sawed by how quickly they go from friendly to rage to friendly again (and then rage again).

As a therapist and lawyer, I have seen many borderline HCPs fighting for custody in family court against their targets of blame with extreme behavior including domestic violence, child alienation and/or false allegations. They are both men and women, driven to cling to their children (and each other) to avoid feelings of abandonment.

4. Paranoid HCPs: They can be suspicious of everyone around them, and believe there are conspiracies to block their careers at work, their friendships and their family relationships. They can carry grudges for years, and then punish their targets of blame. Paranoid HCPs may believe that those around them are about to harm them, so they may pre-emptively attack their targets. They easily feel treated unjustly and in the workplace, some experts say “the majority of lawsuits are filed by this type of coworker.” (Cavaiola & Lavender, 2000)

5. Histrionic HCPs: This personality is most often associated with drama and endless emotional stories. Yet histrionic HCPs often accuse their targets of blame of exaggerated or fabricated behavior, to hurt them or to manipulate them. They assume relationships are deeper than they are so that they are constantly feeling surprised and hurt by how others react to them. They demand to be the center of attention and attack their targets of blame when they are not. They often involve others in their many complaints, which can lead to public accusations and humiliation for their targets of blame.





kurtster

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Posted: Jan 23, 2025 - 10:46pm

 Steely_D wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
All valid. Is it as valid as someone saying, “ I just feel like I’m not a man/woman”?
So we end up talking about two different topics: phenotype and genotype. By not separating out the subsets of this topic, it’s impossible to have a satisfactory convo.
 
So, here's a definition I found. 

Don't ask me for a link since the need for them has been eliminated by letting R_D get a pass on not providing them anymore.  The tribe has spoken on this.

Genotype vs. phenotype

Genotype is the genetic makeup of an organism, while phenotype is the observable characteristics of that organism.

So I guess we do not stop with Homo Sapiens.  We need to conflate the two and apply this to all living organisms. Or keep it simple as we have since the beginning of civilization.

Which is it ?

Me, I'll go with a male is the sperm donor and a female is the egg donor.  Period.  What one feels like is irrelevant when it comes to deciding rights based on gender.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jan 23, 2025 - 9:48pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


All valid. Is it as valid as someone saying, “ I just feel like I’m not a man/woman”?
So we end up talking about two different topics: phenotype and genotype. By not separating out the subsets of this topic, it’s impossible to have a satisfactory convo.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2025 - 4:10pm

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Posted: May 16, 2023 - 12:55pm


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Posted: Mar 30, 2023 - 12:46pm


Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 30, 2023 - 9:30am

The media/nation is on a roll trying to always partition people into a group, for some reason. Instant labelling.
Are they white/black/etc?
Are they male/female/etc?
Are they Christian/Jewish/etc?
Are they Democrat/Republican/etc?

And - tongue in cheek - it reminds me of Randy Newman so that I wonder when news reports will start subdividing people based on height. "Was the killer a short person?" Because we all hate someone, for some characteristic, so we might as well focus on some other one as an identification of horribleness while we're in the groove.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 29, 2023 - 4:17pm

 R_P wrote:

indeed
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