paicanuck1 wrote:

Who said that he's retiring? 😍

This is why I love RP. Simon and Garfunkel followed by a cover of theirs!!! It all flows so well. I’m gonna miss Bill when he retires  😘😘😘❤️❤️❤️

Right after Paul & Artie’s “For Emily….” Perfect segue! ♥️

Brilliant!

Starting the doubt the number of plays shown. 

Love Los Incas. Bought their Flutes of the Andes album in 1968, on impulse - the way I found so much amazing music - at the famous Sam the Record Man on Yonge St in Toronto. Used to dance alone all around my little rented room, almost in trance. Glorious, transporting music. Thank you thank you thank you RP.

Love it when you play this and S&G back to back! 

My folks had this exact same record back in the day. Thanks so much for playing it, and to whoever suggested it. 

I played this - well, a more instrumental version - as part of an album of incidental music at a dinner party once. One guest commented how, 'sad,' it was that the CD makers thought it necessary to cover a Simon and Garfunkel song ...

 bruceandjenna wrote: 
Must be Jenna giving you a hint Bruce. 

well, there are worse things in life

And I was expecting DJ Shadow...

 Proclivities wrote:
 
"I'd rather have a locket than a tail..."

Bill, If you like this please play more Jean Luc Ponty!

Now this takes me back. Very cool. Different take on an old song.

Not really a pleasure to the ear, but it could be much worse - I mean, hey, at least it's not the Simon & Garfunkel exploit.

This is a great prelude to Sounds of Silence - I'm looking forward to hearing Paul and Art now!

Old school song!

I thought so.  This group was known as Urubamba when they toured with Paul Simon.  They did an album of their own around then, that I basically put on autoplay for about a year.  Sort of kickstarted my fascination with South America.  If you can, give it a listen...haunting and beautiful.

Brings back fond memories of great food and company in Andean towns.

James Last: Beach Party—- Greatest album ever created. agreed?

This sounds like the backing track S&G used.

I wonder what kind of reception authentic alti-plano folk music would receive on RP.

Rather than this westernized synthesis material.  Which is good too. 

From the place I live now.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Most singers today rejoice if they have 2 octaves to rub together, let alone the 5 octaves she had at her peak.

At least they keep the giant guinea pigs at bay.

As my mind's gone into meltdown in this appalling heat, it's going in unexpected random directions, and is now thinking about old pipe tobacco ads. On the rare times when I'm completely at peace and content, usually on some mountain somewhere, I still characterise it as a "Condor moment".

quality, thanks

 Proclivities wrote: 

"I'd rather be a hammer than a snail..."

 kcar wrote: 
Here you go, first Los Incas, and now Simon and Garfunkel;)

 dkliger wrote: 
The intro was authentically OTT. I was expecting Simon and Garfunkel in overdrive! 

Yearning with love and emotion

Great song but of course no one can compare to the great Yma Sumac and her version.

Flashbacks  to Peru? Yes!
 AND every other other subway underpass and plaza in the Western(and sometimes Eastern) world.
 Please refer to South Park and the peruvian flute band debacle.

 dkliger wrote: 

Enchanting.

I think I saw them playing in the New York subway system the other day; yñou never know what you will find down there. 

Seriously though, I enjoy the authenticity they bring to this classic Peruvian song. 

Me too,but not this version. Some years ago, I was on the Inca Trail just above  Warmi Wañuska Pass (dead woman Pass) when a guide pulled out his flute and played this. Fitting, especially since a bespectacled bear made an appearance not 10 minutes later.

 cosmiclint wrote: 
Well played, sir!

 liteon1 wrote: 
D'oh! (LOL)

I have this is my dust bin. 
at first it's interesting and refreshing, that don't last 

 Businessgypsy wrote: 

 treatment_bound wrote: 
"I'd rather be a bucket than a pail..."

 cohifi wrote: 
The opening notes are sampled by DJ Shadow's "You Can't Go Home Again," which is what perked my ears up...

 jagdriver wrote: 
is there a cover to this?

I don't ever need to hear this again, by Los Incas or anyone else.

I love this.  I actually have it on one of my old tapes.  Great to hear it again.  Thnx B & R.

 Randomax wrote: 

I'll take over for Paul:

"I'd rather be a forest than a street."

WTF is that supposed to mean???????????

Why do I feel like I'm at Granville Island in Vancouver?  Could it be the pan flute?

uau!! I remember I had this album!! was my first music cassette and I bought when I had 12 years old!! I bought in Asturias when I'm with my parents in holly summer days and the band was playing in live in the square of the town.

Nice memories!!

I really love this original version better than Simon and Garfunkel's knock-off - it has more "soul" and feeling. And when it cuts loose in the middle, it certainly demonstrates Los Incas' talent!  Wonderful stuff.

Wow! I have the original Los Incas' LP. A friend of mine brought it for me from Perú. Very beautiful, introspective, and spiritual music.

Ditto! They finally released it on CD!  Jeff09 wrote: 

Instant recollection of Urubamba, an album I *wore out* over the course of a year or two.

Beautiful hearing this—i kept thinking (someone put words to this back in the 60's) okay...then you play S and G; I get it now!

Very strange coincidence.  My buddy Pat was over just last night playing Madden w/me.  We were listening to music as we played and talking about Paul Simon for some reason.  He said he thought someone should cover El Condor Pasa.  What are the odds? 

 salide wrote: 
Does this mean SP was 20 years behind?

 SirLars wrote: 
hee hee

countyman...i'm embarrassed for you reading that comment.

 countyman wrote: 

how 'bout some zamfir?

keep waiting for Paul Simon to chime in

One of the things I love about RP is songs like this in the mix.  More world music!

whatever could this madness be??   I LOVE IT!

Que Viva Bolivia, and Peru and the Andes! :D

Cordillera de Los Andes... Andino music always take me up there. If you really want to hear nice andino modern music, listen to "Los Jaivas" Chilean Andino Cosmic Rock, in between zampoñas and moogs.
MaTías

 ceviche wrote: 
No kiddin!  There's tons of Andean music that puts this to shame.  Guess we need to upload some so Bill can give this the burial it deserves.

So ho-hum for the first half, then it all goes loco and zippy and much more interesting. Reminds me a little of the intro to Monty Python and the Holy Grail (no grail here) - we just need a llama advert :*)

Pan pipes can be much more than muzak, and can have a musical and political edge. A shame we never usually get to hear the real thing on mainstream radio. This is a better version than the mulched Paul Simon effort, right enough.

I've just heard this too often on street corners in the U.S., Europe, even in downtown Bangkok I once saw a group of Andean pan pipers busking. It's like  a curse. And now, I live in Peru. I love the place, but I could do without this hackneyed tune.

 countyman wrote: 
Only original with those lyrics...
 In 1913 Alomía Robles composed "El cóndor pasa" and the song was first performed publicly at the Teatro Mazzi in Lima.<2>

In the 1960's the musical group, "Los Incas" performed the song in Paris where it was heard by Paul Simon of Simon and Garfunkel.<2> "Los Incas" told Simon, perhaps through ignorance, that the song was a 19th century musical composition by an anonymous composer.<2> Simon became interested in the song and composed new lyrics for the melody.<2> The song appeared on Simon and Garfunkel's 1970 album Bridge over Troubled Water.

In 1970 Alomía Robles' son, Armando Robles Godoy, filed a copyright lawsuit against Simon and demonstrated that the song had been composed by his father and that his father had copyrighted the song in the United States in 1933.<2> Robles Godoy said that the lawsuit was almost friendly and that he bears no ill will towards Simon for what he considers a misunderstanding.<3> "It was an almost friendly court case, because Paul Simon, besides being a genius, was a great culture-loving guy. It was not carelessness on his part," says Robles Godoy.<3> "He happened to hear the song in Paris from a vernacular group. He liked it, he went to ask them and they gave him the wrong information. They told him it was a popular tune from the 18th Century and not my father's composition. It was a court case without further complications."<3>

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_C%C3%B3ndor_Pasa_(song)

 beelzebubba wrote: 
You're probably right, but I still love the Simon & Garfunkel version more.

 beelzebubba wrote: 
Yeah, seeing as the S & G version is the original. 

my very first record!
.... i don't feel ashamed.....

Much nicer and organic than the Simon and Garfunkle bastardized version.

 tg3k wrote: 
But it does get played enough on RP that I'm pretty damned sick of it and the segue to S&G.

 Koan wrote: 
Starship go cwash!

window wrote:
Well played, window. Hook, line and sinker, huh? Some people are just a little too anxious to prove themselves right.

Back on topic, I don't know that I've heard this song in its entirety before. One of the great things about RP is hearing music you don't usually hear every day.

 window wrote: 
I'm guessing Paul Simon was somewhere in a city, in a metro station, near a famous building, where ever.... and heard a bunch of ponchod semi-Peruvian busker like figures cranking this out. Unfortunately, his version didn't stop them playing it for the next 40 years.

 coyote620 wrote:  
 SantaFeGrace wrote:  
oscar_driver wrote:  

Boy, you people are gullible... I was laying it on pretty thick, but I guess it was a little too irresistible.

And for the record - 3 times wrong, dude.

SantaFeGrace wrote:

Maybe the composer traveled forward in time to hear the S&G version first and then went back to 1913 to finish up?

 window wrote: 



First - both Simon and Garfunkel are alive and well.  Second they heard Los Incas play El Condor Pasa in the 60's before writing lyrics & recording the song....

A little research is a good thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_C%C3%B3ndor_Pasa_(song)

Ah, this takes me back to the train stations in Switzerland (of all places). Street musicians from the Andes made a pile of money playing there, which truly rankled the Swiss street musicians (a truly ranklable people, if such a word exists). More power to 'em. Good music. 9.

 nicolaluna wrote: 

It's really the same group, a universal hive-mind of Peruvians.
But......... I was converted by hearing this played on a single flute near Warmiwaynuska. Right time and right place.

I know it's not right or fair, but when I hear this I am reminded of Ewoks. I'd rather not be.

 window wrote: 
HAHAHAH 2 times wrong dude ... jesus, please educate yourself, don't make yourself a fool like that on a public board LOLO

OScar

 

 window wrote: 
You know they're still alive, right?

Holy crap - what a blatant ripoff of Simon and Garfunkel!  They're probably spinning in their graves right now!!
Oh well, I guess they finally got what was coming to them after Simon dared to plugged in his guitar at the Newport Folk Festival.

Reminds me of Full Circle with Michael Palin.

 venus_df wrote: 
Nope, that's 2 of us.

you can hear this song in subway systems around the world!  anywhere you go! 

but i like this version!  

Danimal174 wrote: How old are you?

ye faire folk thee doth sucketh merrily, verily huzzah (regardless of what culture actually did this, all I can see is mead and codsacks)

Simple, very sincere and, at this point, a cliche'.

xkolibuul wrote:

You're welcome. Yuum bo'otik.

it's probably just me, but when i hear this song i always think it's going to be DJ Shadow. DDD:

Flauta de Pan

I've never heard this instrumental version before, only the original. Nice!

Haven't heard this song in just forever. A very pleasant surprise.

Otomi wrote: thanks for the post. i was about to get real stupid. waiting was wise. i'll make up for it, though

Jelani wrote: Depends upon whether you are a top or a bottom, I should think.

Bill: would you please play some Deep forest ? Pacifique qould be great.

Thanks for the info, Otomi. Jach ma'alob a t'aan.

Danny_G wrote:

Sorry, Danny, but the ceramic piece on the album cover is not Moche. It is from the Classic period (ca. A. D. 200-900) Oaxacan culture. Moche art is quite distinct, stylistically, from Classic period Oaxacan art. The jade mosaic bat you exhibit is also from Oaxaca, specifically from Monte Albán. Both pieces, the jade bat and the ceramic bat god, are on exhibit in the Oaxacan hall of the Museo Nacional de Antropología in Mexico City. I compared the album cover with a slide I shot in this museum before posting my previous comment, so was certain about what I said. You can see for yourself by going to the official web site of the museum
(click here)
and clicking on Salas > Culturas de Oaxaca > Fotogalería and then clicking through the show until you find the urn depicted on the album cover.

Lo siento, Danny, pero la pieza cerámica en la portada del disco no es moche. Es de la cultura oaxaqueña del periodo Clásico (c 200-900 d.C.). El arte moche es estilísticamente muy diferente del arte del periodo Clásico oaxaqueño. El murciélago de mosaico de jade que pones también es de Oaxaca, concretamente de Monte Albán. Ambas piezas, el murciélago de jade y el dios murciélago de cerámica, se exhiben en la Sala Oaxaca del Museo Nacional de Antropología en la ciudad de México. Comparé la portada del disco con una diapositiva que había tomado en este museo antes de poner mi comentario anterior, por lo que estoy seguro de lo que dije. Puedes averiguarlo en el sitio web oficial del museo
(click here),
haciendo clic en Salas > Culturas de Oaxaca > Fotogalería y recorriendo las imágenes hasta que encuentres la urna que aparece en la portada del disco.

Saludos cordiales,

Otomí

Otomi wrote: This is not el dios murciélago Album cover is based in The Moche Civilization art.

...i last saw him about eight hears ago, when he was going by the moniker of bushman 2000, but if this story is any indication, he's still going strong...

WOW! My recollection of playing this song in marching band pales in comparison to the previous story from Mexico... PS - Whacha smokin' Poose?

Welcome to the Hotel Condorpasa.

Condors never fly when the sun goes down.

I was eating sweet tamales and drinking pecan atole in front of the parish church in Tecozautla, Hidalgo (Mexico) yesterday morning, enjoying the early Sun, my wife and daughters, and the friendly people. A street musician played The Sound of Silence on a zampoña (Andean panpipes) and guitar. The subtle and indirect reference to Simon & Garfunkel's version of El Condor Pasa reminded me of Bill's unique ways of linking music on RP. All in all it was a perfect moment. By the way, the bat god on the album cover is from Monte Albán, Oaxaca (Mexico again) and thus is not entirely appropriate for a collection of South American music. The original is on permanent display in the Oaxacan exhibit of the Museo Nacional de Antropología in Mexico City.

i'd rather be a hammer than a nail?....

I, a dumb murrican, am now enlightened, having never known the history of this piece, only knowing it from S&G. My education continues.