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Let's see: different chord progressions, different melodies. Not plagiarized, not stolen, though clearly influenced by. Musicians generally call it a "homage". Dave Brubeck did not write "Take Five" anyhow.
5/4 time is 5/4 time. Sticks with you like velcro.
I dearly love that I can be sitting here in Boulder, high as a kite on Golden Goat and sipping on exquisite sake from Hyogo-ken after wacthing yet another spectacular lenticular cloud-projected sunset, and jamming to this tasty time-machine music on Radio Paradise!
Hey man,
Whatever "lenticular cloud-projected sunset" is...I want some.
Let's see: different chord progressions, different melodies. Not plagiarized, not stolen, though clearly influenced by. Musicians generally call it a "homage". Dave Brubeck did not write "Take Five" anyhow.
homage and cover are excellent terms for this.
Definitely a period style. But for a guitar-0riented jam-style piece from that period, it really grows on subsequent listens.
Same time period...The What Love (suite) from the Canadian band, The
Collectors...'bout twenty minutes...
Tony in NJ
W.A.S.T.E.
I can hear the resemblance to Take 5, but the time signature is NOT 5/4, it's 6/8 (or 3/4). Much easier to play.
Right - it's in 6/8.
Dave Brubeck called. He sounded pretty upset.
Definitely a period style. But for a guitar-0riented jam-style piece from that period, it really grows on subsequent listens.
Kinda damning with a little praise
No ?
My eternal memory of this song, me kid sitting on the back seat of my dad's red Wartburg 353,radio speaker said Gold and silver by Quicksilver, my mom had her window down, outside end of summer time sunset colours, Montenegrian old curvy road by the Adriatic sea,
My mom's right hand out of the window, and she just said 'lets fly, and we all stretched our arms out of windows... it was 1977, or 1978, Forever 10!
Shut it !!!
I'm jealous
Nice to hear QSM again. Check out how many big name bands Nicky Hopkins went on to supply piano accompaniment.
Thanks for enlightening others.
This smokes!
Ha ha. No secret that jazz influenced so much music in that era and led to the jam bands that still play today.
Local influences. Quicksilver and Brubeck were both from the SF Bay Area at roughly the same time. Music was very regional back in those days with local artists having large influences on each other, regardless of the type of music that the individual artists were involved in.
Locals influencing each other. Happens a lot or used to.
Lets not forget that take 5 is at it's heart Beethoven's Fur Elise in 5/4 time. Nothing is new under the sun.
Locals influencing each other. Happens a lot or used to.
Let's see: different chord progressions, different melodies. Not plagiarized, not stolen, though clearly influenced by. Musicians generally call it a "homage". Dave Brubeck did not write "Take Five" anyhow.
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I can hear the resemblance to Take 5, but the time signature is NOT 5/4, it's 6/8 (or 3/4). Much easier to play.
the greatest rock ' n roll band in the world
:)
My mom's right hand out of the window, and she just said 'lets fly, and we all stretched our arms out of windows... it was 1977, or 1978, Forever 10!
Let's see: different chord progressions, different melodies. Not plagiarized, not stolen.
The only similarity is the time signature. Definitely more interesting than standard 2/4, 4/4 time.
I can hear the resemblance to Take 5, but the time signature is NOT 5/4, it's 6/8 (or 3/4). Much easier to play.
Let's call it Take Six
oldman wrote:
Stole it outright, it seems to me.
Let's see: different chord progressions, different melodies. Not plagiarized, not stolen, though clearly influenced by. Musicians generally call it an "homage" and time signatures cannot be copyrighted. Dave Brubeck did not write "Take Five" anyhow.
MassivRuss wrote:
Stole it outright, it seems to me.
They were both acts that called the Bay Area home and who knows who influenced who back then. A good riff was a good riff and that was all that mattered. My Dad saw Brubeck IIRC. Berkeley was home back then.
MassivRuss wrote:
Stole it outright, it seems to me.
Correction......comparing Peaches and Oranges......... ;-)
Stole it outright, it seems to me.
contrast this with Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore. two different leagues
contrast this with Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore. two different leagues
Businessgypsy wrote:
6/8, actually. It's the chord progressions that evoke Take 5, not the rhythm.
I hear similarities in the hi-hat, even if it's not the same time signature, but I'm sure it's a pretty common jazz hi hat pattern, so, yeah...
It's calligraphy, not typography. Come on, man, someone who fancies himself a designer ought to know the difference.
Thank you Businessgypsy.
Rick Griffin was great. Soggynapkin gets it wrong yet again.
Musically though, I gotta say this sounds like the Allman Brothers before they learned to play their instruments.
I'll add my 2¢ by saying "Cobra" is the better instrumental. It has more "juice"..driving drumwork and a freer guitar by Cippolina.
And there was garbage like this too!
Garbage is this comment.
FYT
And there was garbage like this too!
John Cippolina formed a group called Copperhead. They released at least one album that I'm aware of.
One thing that's maybe worth noting, some of these artists who don't have a lot of commercial recordings, actually perform a few hundred nights a year. Recording artists and performing artists still live in separate distinct worlds sometimes.
Ahh, finally some of the "good" old noodling hippy music. . .
Love QMS... I'd still be happier than a kitten in catnip if I could hear "Spindrifter," that beautiful instrumental Nicky Hopkins performed before he left this earth... I have it somewhere - if it meets standards, maybe I'll try to submit it... Meanwhile, "Child of Man" is pretty awesome, too...
As a Mac-User you probably are unable to mute something? Have to ask Steve before....?
Sorry, we're all out of Justin Beiber.
"Comment Of The Year" candidate.
6/8, actually. It's the chord progressions that evoke Take 5, not the rhythm.
As a Mac-User you probably are unable to mute something? Have to ask Steve before....?
Huh? A Mac hater much? You are just plain ignorant if you think that Macs don't "mute," and you are small-minded and ridiculously petty if you think it should even be an issue all on this web site.
Played this vinyl until it was only good for extruding a single noodle (very long). If this was released today, it would be an 8, taken out of context it's hard for the youngsters to comprehend the cultural mood this album was inspired by. Lets see long hair, weed, anti-war, cultural upheaval, anti-Nixon, peace, free-love, incense, gettin hip.
I member bein part of 120,000 people in Seattle who did a sit down on I-5 thus shutting it down. Rock and Roll. "Hell no I won't go !"
We need some of that spirit today. Peace !
You took the words right out of, well, you know
Ahh, finally some of the "good" old noodling hippy music. . .
Most of 'em say: "Oh, you mean Phish?"
Played this vinyl until it was only good for extruding a single noodle (very long). If this was released today, it would be an 8, taken out of context it's hard for the youngsters to comprehend the cultural mood this album was inspired by. Lets see long hair, weed, anti-war, cultural upheaval, anti-Nixon, peace, free-love, incense, gettin hip.
I member bein part of 120,000 people in Seattle who did a sit down on I-5 thus shutting it down. Rock and Roll. "Hell no I won't go !"
We need some of that spirit today. Peace !
HORRIBLE TRACK !
Sorry, we're all out of Justin Beiber.
I don't believe you said that.
HORRIBLE TRACK !
As a Mac-User you probably are unable to mute something? Have to ask Steve before....?
Excellent R&R from yester-year. I had to buy a second album as the first was played into
submission (loaned it out one too many times.) As has been mentioned in prior comments,
these guys were far ahead of their time, although, they did cover a lot of Ellas McDaniel's tunes, e.g. "Who do you love" A true psychedelic relic, acid rock in real time.. . .
" Happy Trails" ya'all !
John Cippolina formed a group called Copperhead. They released at least one album that I'm aware of.
John and another great guitarist (Steve Kimock) also founded a band called Zero in the 80s-90s. Some great live shows if you can find them.
Wow. Don't think I would have ever followed this up with Norah Jones. Head spin.
Ditto!
BUMP!
"Cobra" was on Just For Love.
Compleat with Rick Griffin cover lettering
You people are hopeless.
Ditto!
So I look and well, it is Gold (and Silver). But after more goes by, I do here the Take Five in it as well.
So, I wonder, was Golden Brown influenced by these then?
This is the only one of this album, but there are lots of others getting played here:
Song Title Album
Dino's Song Sons Of Mercury (1968-75)
Edward, The Mad Shirt Grinder Shady Grove
Fresh Air Sons of Mercury
Gold And Silver Quicksilver Messenger Service
Pride Of Man Sons Of Mercury (1968-75)
The Fool Sons Of Mercury (1968-75)
What About Me Sons of Mercury
Who Do You Love Sons Of Mercury (1968-75)
You people are hopeless.
What he said.
It's the time signature, 5/4. IMHO, Cippolina's response to Brubeck. Brubeck was local to SF at that time, lionized in the press, and certainly well known to a stylistic sponge like Cippolina. Cool, eh?
Not to put too fine a point on it, but listen carefully to Greg Elmore's drumming—amazing note work. Compare it to Joe Morello's on "Take 5." There's an eerie similarity. QMS was one hell of a band.
I'm hearing LOTS of Take 5 in this. lots and lots.
One of my thoughts at first, but it's 4/4. It has beats like that song.
I'm hearing LOTS of Take 5 in this. lots and lots
S'ok. See below..........
I can hear the resemblance to Take 5, but the time signature is NOT 5/4, it's 6/8 (or 3/4). Much easier to play.
I'm hearing LOTS of Take 5 in this. lots and lots.
Wikipedia is a bit thin on this guy- other than that he left us too soon. What did he do after QMS?
John Cippolina formed a group called Copperhead. They released at least one album that I'm aware of.
Wikipedia is a bit thin on this guy- other than that he left us too soon. What did he do after QMS?
definitely.... pretty great influence too
Wikipedia is a bit thin on this guy- other than that he left us too soon. What did he do after QMS?
You people are hopeless.
Whoah! I'm haven a flashback here!!!
BTW I've heard other QMS here. Lots!
The music we love is the soundtrack of our life.
Cheers to that!
Anyone have info on the cover art? The symbol and the bottom looks a bit like the large intestine.
It is by Rick Griffin, so anything is possible.