Joni Mitchell — Love or Money
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There's a remarkably high column in the '1' ratings.
There's no accounting for taste, but that's just wrong.
zubeneschamli wrote:
Absolutely right. I've always thought Joni to be one of the greatest artists and female vocalists in my lifetime. As a musician myself, I have always appreciated her particular stylings and quirks. Very unique.
Amazing depths of ignorance reflected in many of the negative comments here. Probably one of the most significant artists of the past 50 years. Anyone with vocal training will tell you she's a great talent, her composition skills are unparalleled, her lyrics witty, intelligent, and insightful, and her guitar style and set of alternate tunings are recognized as groundbreaking. If she's so horrific, why is it that some of the best musicians in the world, such as Pat Metheny and Jaco Pastorius, jumped at the chance just to be in her backing band? She may not be your cup of tea, but your opinion is not shared by those who actually know and perform music.
Absolutely right. I've always thought Joni to be one of the greatest artists and female vocalists in my lifetime. As a musician myself, I have always appreciated her particular stylings and quirks. Very unique.
Amazing depths of ignorance reflected in many of the negative comments here. Probably one of the most significant artists of the past 50 years. Anyone with vocal training will tell you she's a great talent, her composition skills are unparalleled, her lyrics witty, intelligent, and insightful, and her guitar style and set of alternate tunings are recognized as groundbreaking. If she's so horrific, why is it that some of the best musicians in the world, such as Pat Metheny and Jaco Pastorius, jumped at the chance just to be in her backing band? She may not be your cup of tea, but your opinion is not shared by those who actually know and perform music.
HORRIBLE!!!
Her voice drives me crazy with that forced vibrato... Well, it's not even a vibrato, it's just inconsistently shifting between notes... HORRIBLE, PLAIN HORRIBLE!!!
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Her voice drives me crazy with that forced vibrato... Well, it's not even a vibrato, it's just inconsistently shifting between notes... HORRIBLE, PLAIN HORRIBLE!!!
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TravelingChick wrote:
An embarrassing one-fourth of the ratings, including mine, were sucko-barfo, more than any other rating. It is playlist purple, a distinction reserved for the RP songs that are, in the opinion of those who rated it, the worst. You know, like Michael Franti.
Not her best song, but I always love Joni's smooth vocals and jazzy sound.
An embarrassing one-fourth of the ratings, including mine, were sucko-barfo, more than any other rating. It is playlist purple, a distinction reserved for the RP songs that are, in the opinion of those who rated it, the worst. You know, like Michael Franti.
Sorry, but any song that falls below a rating of 5 should be taken out of rotation. If I had my druthers, any song by Joni Mitchell would be taken out of rotation.
Not her best song, but I always love Joni's smooth vocals and jazzy sound.
Jared wrote:
i think i find Joni even more tuneless than Bob. yes she makes pretty notes with her voice, but there is no tune. now that i think of it, Bob's the reverse: nice tune, can't make pretty notes with his voice! no offense to all you fans out there, i'll wait patiently til it's over, enjoy
At least its not Dylan
i think i find Joni even more tuneless than Bob. yes she makes pretty notes with her voice, but there is no tune. now that i think of it, Bob's the reverse: nice tune, can't make pretty notes with his voice! no offense to all you fans out there, i'll wait patiently til it's over, enjoy
laozilover wrote:
You have Tom Scott's L.A. Express confused with Weather Report. Her collaborations with Wayne Shorter and Jaco Pastorius (both Weather Report members) came later. See the Wikipedia article.
Don't need no Wiki on this one.... laozilover, listen to Jericho again. Jaco and Short all OVER the place. Then get back with me.
You have Tom Scott's L.A. Express confused with Weather Report. Her collaborations with Wayne Shorter and Jaco Pastorius (both Weather Report members) came later. See the Wikipedia article.
Don't need no Wiki on this one.... laozilover, listen to Jericho again. Jaco and Short all OVER the place. Then get back with me.
CascadianPDX wrote:
You have Tom Scott's L.A. Express confused with Weather Report. Her collaborations with Wayne Shorter and Jaco Pastorius (both Weather Report members) came later. See the Wikipedia article.
I just scanned the Joni playlist and see that Jericho hasn't been played in years... for shame! That is one damn fine bit of work... as a matter of fact, the first three tracks of the LP are brilliant for Joni, not to mention the Weather Report cats helping out.
You have Tom Scott's L.A. Express confused with Weather Report. Her collaborations with Wayne Shorter and Jaco Pastorius (both Weather Report members) came later. See the Wikipedia article.
I just scanned the Joni playlist and see that Jericho hasn't been played in years... for shame! That is one damn fine bit of work... as a matter of fact, the first three tracks of the LP are brilliant for Joni, not to mention the Weather Report cats helping out.
woozurbuddy wrote:
I'm with you, wooz - those guys have their taste in their feet! 
Odd that this tune is rated so low. What do you guys want, "Big Yellow Taxi" all the time? This is Joni's classic live album (a must have if you're a fan) and this tune does it for me.
I'm with you, wooz - those guys have their taste in their feet! RadioDoc wrote:
Listening to that four year old tell stories might give you surprising insight. Why so judgmental over innocence and pure glee of the telling?
Cute and endearing when one is four years old but I think Joni was a little older when she did this.
Listening to that four year old tell stories might give you surprising insight. Why so judgmental over innocence and pure glee of the telling?
Cute and endearing when one is four years old but I think Joni was a little older when she did this.
freddyfender wrote:
What I want is to never hear another Joni Mitchell song for as long as I live ( "Big Yellow Taxi" included).
+1, no more Joni.
What I want is to never hear another Joni Mitchell song for as long as I live ( "Big Yellow Taxi" included).
+1, no more Joni.
woozurbuddy wrote:
What I want is to never hear another Joni Mitchell song for as long as I live ( "Big Yellow Taxi" included).
Odd that this tune is rated so low. What do you guys want, "Big Yellow Taxi" all the time? This is Joni's classic live album (a must have if you're a fan) and this tune does it for me.
What I want is to never hear another Joni Mitchell song for as long as I live ( "Big Yellow Taxi" included).
avidfan wrote:
Listening to that four year old tell stories might give you surprising insight. Why so judgmental over innocence and pure glee of the telling?
I just can't stand her droning on and on and on. It's like a 4 year old telling a story (and then...and then...and then).
Listening to that four year old tell stories might give you surprising insight. Why so judgmental over innocence and pure glee of the telling?
At least its not Dylan
mirland wrote:
(Denmark)
I've been to Denmark, it's not that bad!
(Denmark)
To quote Hellraiser:"Help me I am in Hell"
I've been to Denmark, it's not that bad!
plaid wrote:
Oh No!!!! Don't worry I'll email you the name of a good psychiatrist. It sounds like you need one.
I couldn't get my headphones off fast enough. I'm scarred for life.
Oh No!!!! Don't worry I'll email you the name of a good psychiatrist. It sounds like you need one.Not exactly a Joni classic, but WTF? You people are like children whining about having to eat your green beans.
I appreciate her as a writer of many wonderful songs sung by others. I just can't stand her droning on and on and on. It's like a 4 year old telling a story (and then...and then...and then).
I couldn't get my headphones off fast enough. I'm scarred for life.
After listening and reading the comments for a few years (and donating), I was forced to register so I could come to Joni's defense. She is an authentic genius. The music grow on you (for decades). Give it a chance!
Some just dont get thanks Bill and Thanks Rp .....
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sporkster wrote:
Turn it off
Make it stop!!!!!!!! 
Turn it off
To quote Hellraiser:"Help me I am in Hell"
Now Playing:
Rickie Lee Jones - Easy Money
Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns And Money
The Psychedelic Furs - All That Money Wants
Joni Mitchell - Love or Money
The song seems to be part of one of these grand concept sets, mellow out people!
Rickie Lee Jones - Easy Money
Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns And Money
The Psychedelic Furs - All That Money Wants
Joni Mitchell - Love or Money
The song seems to be part of one of these grand concept sets, mellow out people!
Heh, I opened the website specifically to vote this down, and I usually only make that effort to vote up something I like. To those of you who like it, well, that's why there's all kinds of music!
Please, RP, stop playing this. Surely an overall score of 4.5 is an indication of people feel about this one?
Make it stop!!!!!!!!
this has to be one of her worst - 2 from me
outunderstars wrote:
because he can
Why on Earth are they still playing this song when it so clearly disliked?
because he can
outunderstars wrote:
Was wondering the same. Maybe they lost their dog whistle.
Why on Earth are they still playing this song when it so clearly disliked?
Was wondering the same. Maybe they lost their dog whistle.
Why on Earth are they still playing this song when it so clearly disliked?
luca77 wrote:
Is it possible for some old people to learn that you have to earn respect from younger people. You don't just get it by not dying - any old fool can cling onto life even while clutching their old vinyl record collection. Good music is timeless and appeals to 20 y.o people now as much as it did in the 60's and 70's. I'm a Joni fan but this song is pretty boring.
I'm an old fogey myself, Luca77, having first heard Joni in my late teens. I agree with you however, that respect has to be earned. The baby boomer generation has done some good things but much of the counter-culture ideals were actually bought to us mostly by the generation born in the 1940's (people Joni MItchell's age). If anything the world is worse off now than it was 30 years ago. I don't blame a lot of younger people thinking maybe we baby boomers consumed, hoarded and polluted more than our share. And I know a few younger people who are eminently worthy of respect.
Is it possible for some old people to learn that you have to earn respect from younger people. You don't just get it by not dying - any old fool can cling onto life even while clutching their old vinyl record collection. Good music is timeless and appeals to 20 y.o people now as much as it did in the 60's and 70's. I'm a Joni fan but this song is pretty boring.
I'm an old fogey myself, Luca77, having first heard Joni in my late teens. I agree with you however, that respect has to be earned. The baby boomer generation has done some good things but much of the counter-culture ideals were actually bought to us mostly by the generation born in the 1940's (people Joni MItchell's age). If anything the world is worse off now than it was 30 years ago. I don't blame a lot of younger people thinking maybe we baby boomers consumed, hoarded and polluted more than our share. And I know a few younger people who are eminently worthy of respect.
novacura wrote:
Is there anything lower than sucko- barfo. Was the applause at the end due to fact that she stopped singing?
This is a great album.
Is there anything lower than sucko- barfo. Was the applause at the end due to fact that she stopped singing?
gandalfbmg wrote:
I find her voice highly annoying on this song... (moreso than ususal that is)
ditto, ditto, ditto
I find her voice highly annoying on this song... (moreso than ususal that is)
Joni Mitchell and the LA Express are a very cool combo. They both raise each other a whole notch.
luca77 wrote:
Yes congratulations on surviving, well worthy of respect. Very impressive. I'm convinced now. Maybe you've done something for the world or people around you, maybe you haven't and you've just consumed, polluted and hoarded.
And wiped your ass for you when you were in diapers. Don't forget that. See you in 60 years, genius.
gobits wrote:
Actually, it's you young people who have to earn some respect. We old fogies already did our earnin'
Yes congratulations on surviving, well worthy of respect. Very impressive. I'm convinced now. Maybe you've done something for the world or people around you, maybe you haven't and you've just consumed, polluted and hoarded.
luca77 wrote:
Is it possible for some old people to learn that you have to earn respect from younger people. You don't just get it by not dying - any old fool can cling onto life even while clutching their old vinyl record collection. Good music is timeless and appeals to 20 y.o people now as much as it did in the 60's and 70's. I'm a Joni fan but this song is pretty boring.
Actually, it's you young people who have to earn some respect. We old fogies already did our earnin'
Kokoloco53 wrote:
Thanks for playing some Joni, one of my top 10 all time artists. If you don't like her music, that's ok, she's way too cool to even begin to discuss for any of you under the age of 35. Sorry, she'll always be the queen.
Is it possible for some old people to learn that you have to earn respect from younger people. You don't just get it by not dying - any old fool can cling onto life even while clutching their old vinyl record collection. Good music is timeless and appeals to 20 y.o people now as much as it did in the 60's and 70's. I'm a Joni fan but this song is pretty boring.
Kokoloco53 wrote:
Thanks for playing some Joni, one of my top 10 all time artists. If you don't like her music, that's ok, she's way too cool to even begin to discuss for any of you under the age of 35. Sorry, she'll always be the queen.
I'm with you, Arizona. Joni's been a fave of mine for 40 years now.
Hearing this in the background actually put me in a bad mood.. I'm gonna have to give it a 1
jameyp wrote:
i like joni, but not this song 
Agreed, had to mute this one.
Dave_Mack wrote:
Steely Mitchell.
I just had this same thought.
Joni is a genius and the musicians she uses are always, always exemplary.
This is a Joni song that I haven't heard before. What a treat! Love Joni and this tune!
It's not fair to rate this song. There are a number of skips in the digital recording I heard.
i like joni, but not this song
Thanks for playing some Joni, one of my top 10 all time artists. If you don't like her music, that's ok, she's way too cool to even begin to discuss for any of you under the age of 35. Sorry, she'll always be the queen.
Entirely too many words in this song. Drop a few and try it again.
She's really straining here! It's bad.
ruthless wrote: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter
Is there another of her recordings that has "Jericho" on it besides this? That is a great song.
Don Juan's Reckless Daughter
laozilover wrote:
Yeah, I just gave it an '8'! I generally do not like 'live' albums, but I dug "Miles of Aisles", and I still wonder why there was no studio version of this song...
To my ears, it sounds like something that didn't make "Hissing of Summer Lawns"...
Steely Mitchell.
I think this is funky. I am not sure what track the other commenters are listening to.... can't be the same track as I'm listening to! Maybe US Customs have confiscated some of the notes? My guess is the 'F' notes
I had to look to see who was responsible for this awfulness-- Joni? Really?!! Oh well, I still would rather never hear that again.
This is painful.
meh
This song is not her best, but I loved Joni in this time period.
I love this collection, but this piece leaves me cold...
Nice piece of 'jazz-rock', great bass playing!
Joni's work with Tom Scott & Co. was a welcome change of pace from the veteran songstress. Laura Nyro would make a nice segue.
redeyespy wrote:
Any Joni is vintage.
Not sure what this is supposed to mean. She's still making ''music.'' I personally find her noisy and odd. Some stuff is vintage. Some is just old.
Painful.
Hairfarmer wrote:
this is TERRIBLE
Any Joni is good. I love her-she brings the wild teenager out in me. Plus I have fond memories of an old boyfriend of hers I used to date-he was the "Strange Boy" on Hejira.
Joni's terrific. But this song is only so-so. No interesting hooks.
not so much. :(
I've been a devout fan of Joni for too many years to admit...but this is not one of her best. Nor is it even marginal.
She has so much to offer. Can't we please her something else? - replace this cut with something else in your rotations.
Any Joni is vintage.
ploafmaster wrote:
well said!
Now with that, I must admit that this song does absolutely no justice to Ms. Mitchell.
I wish more people would simply share their opinions about the song/artist/album, good or bad, without attacking each other. LIKING or DISLIKING music is not a matter of intelligence or skill, it's a matter of taste. Now arguing about an artist's abilities may be debatable, but how their work affects each of us on an individual level can never rationally be struck down.
well said!
Now with that, I must admit that this song does absolutely no justice to Ms. Mitchell.
Wow, isn't it really really cool when someone states an opinion (not a refutable fact, but an irrefutable opinion), and other people like to jump on in and attack it? Like, for example, stating that those rating this song low are 'loons'.
I mean, I like the color green, and I hope anyone liking yellow suffers from a debilitating brain anurism.
But finally moving to the realm of the serious...
I wish more people would simply share their opinions about the song/artist/album, good or bad, without attacking each other. LIKING or DISLIKING music is not a matter of intelligence or skill, it's a matter of taste. Now arguing about an artist's abilities may be debatable, but how their work affects each of us on an individual level can never rationally be struck down.
Ciao,
The Dude
:?
P.S. I think I'm gonna put this message everywhere I deem appropriate today. Call it my dopey little crusade against angry music lovers. Maybe if some people see this in several places, they'll get the point.
Please.... make....it.....STOP.
i've never left a negative comment here before...but...well...i'd prefer not here this particular tune again, please. thanks.
red wrote:
oh the humanity. stop the caterwauling NOW!
cat?er?waul:
To cry or screech like a cat in heat.
To make a shrill, discordant sound.
If you want to hear caterwauling, get out a YOKO ONO CD. Joni has a clear voice, with (maybe in this case) a bit too much vibrato.
I love Joni as much as the next angst-filled soul who came of age in the 70's, but why, of all the stunning tracks on Miles of Aisles, is this the one getting play? Howzabout her surprisingly fresh take on "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio," or "Rainy Night House" or "Cold Blue Steel"? Honestly, I appreciate Radio Paradise's efforts to play more than an artist's hits, but I think that backfires this time.
funkaholic wrote:
Not one of Joni's best....but a 4.7 average?? Bunch of loons out there. Joni's wonderful!
Yeah, I just gave it an '8'! I generally do not like 'live' albums, but I dug "Miles of Aisles", and I still wonder why there was no studio version of this song...
This brings me back - love it! She's so great and talk about a great backup band!
Not one of Joni's best....but a 4.7 average?? Bunch of loons out there. Joni's wonderful!
I've never really listened to Joni before, and this is a very convincing reason why I should. Thanks RP!
I like Joni Mitchell but I think she missed the mark on this one - shrill and painful.
OMG make it stop! 
laozilover wrote:
Joni is a goddess! Is Miles of Aisles the only album with this song? (Is there a studio version?) Doesn't matter ! This one will do just fine!
Miles of Aisles is an awesome album...a college friend turned me on to it. Now I have the CD!
Joni is a goddess! Is Miles of Aisles the only album with this song? (Is there a studio version?) Doesn't matter ! This one will do just fine!
JONI JONI JONI
Always loved this song, even with the vibrato problem. She sounds like that on the whole album for some reason, maybe it was nerves from being on tour... The version of Woodstock from this album is my favorite too.Never heard this one before. Was amazed to see that it was released in 1990! Can't believe this one escaped me. Very good song.
Holy crap. This has to be the best Joni Mitchell I've ever heard. Ho hum. :P
Originally Posted by Hannio:
I love Joni M. But not this song. Way too much vibrato or tremolo or whatever it is.
Agreed, and the lyrics...could she be more didactic?
Originally Posted by Hannio:
I love Joni M. But not this song. Way too much vibrato or tremolo or whatever it is.
uh huh
I love Joni M. But not this song. Way too much vibrato or tremolo or whatever it is.
Makes me wanna pull out my wah wah pedal. For the rest I don\'t really get why this song is rated so low, not that I like it _that_ much but it it\'s not that bad either.
PJ Harvey, Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell--what is this, a woman rock block? RP needs more women interspersed with the rest of the music. It seems they lump them all together.
I too am surprised at the negative comments Joni gets. She is an extremely talented person. Still waters run deep.
She sounds like she needs a good nasal decongestant.
PBS showed an American Masters episode about Joni last night and I missed everything but the last half hour. Waaah! I\'ll have to catch it in the reruns.
Originally Posted by chas5131:
Genius, but the voice is fading fast
uh, fading FAST?? last time I checked, her first album was out in 1968... hmmmm.
Wow -
Surprised to see such a bunch of extremely negative comments. Personally, love this stuff on many levels. Robben Ford\'s (love him) beginning into more jazz idioms, Tom Scott & LA Xpress - love \'em! It\'s been a while but isn\'t Jaco on this album? Geez, Jaco is on the top of my bass player list! And last but not least, Joni - so much variety through her career...... love this!.
Oh well - to each their own :)
ve this!.
Oh well - to each their own :)
Ugh. 
joni\'s got soul
mebbe her jazz is an acquired taste for some, but I question the roots of some of the vehemently negative comments some guys make about her work :roll:
Give Joni a break. :roll:
see my comments on Bob Dylan\'s \"Like A Rolling Stone\"; the same applies to Joni.
Peace.
I don\'t care for most of Joni\'s jazz repertoire, but this one\'s kinda catchy. :)
this song? not so much
Originally Posted by Whack-a-Mole:
IMHO you can never have enough Joni Mitchel. i have never seen her live, but have gron up and old listening to her music.
I love JM, but the drawn out vibrato in parts of this song is really irritating.
oh the humanity. stop the caterwauling NOW!
cat·er·waul:
To cry or screech like a cat in heat.
To make a shrill, discordant sound.
Sorry, but any song that falls below a rating of 5 should be taken out of rotation. If I had my druthers, any song by Joni Mitchell would be taken out of rotation.
Which is why it's great that William is the programmer and not you.