Habib Koité & Bamada — Kumbin
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GREAT!! Thanx RP! 
Saw him live, astonishing.
Highlowsel wrote:
Nah....here's the thing for me. Sometimes my immediate reaction to something never heard is.....less than approving. It's a lot like yours.
But sometimes....sometimes being "forced" to listen works a change of mind....being pushed, from time to time, outside yer normal listening zone allows for ultimately pleasant discoveries you'd never, ever, make on your own. 'Tis why I like this site so much. It never tries to give you what IT thinks you like....it's more a human provided smorgasbord of aural possibilities, usually thematically expressed. I hope it never changes because it's a desert out there in the land of the 'Net where such as this are concerned.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Yep. This is the reason I've never used psd, apart from a few times in my 'early days' & it's worked well for me
Nah....here's the thing for me. Sometimes my immediate reaction to something never heard is.....less than approving. It's a lot like yours.
But sometimes....sometimes being "forced" to listen works a change of mind....being pushed, from time to time, outside yer normal listening zone allows for ultimately pleasant discoveries you'd never, ever, make on your own. 'Tis why I like this site so much. It never tries to give you what IT thinks you like....it's more a human provided smorgasbord of aural possibilities, usually thematically expressed. I hope it never changes because it's a desert out there in the land of the 'Net where such as this are concerned.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Yep. This is the reason I've never used psd, apart from a few times in my 'early days' & it's worked well for me
A talented musician. Hearing outside-the-norm items like this one are why I'm listening. Gave it an 8
Makes me want to travel
jlind wrote:
Nah....here's the thing for me. Sometimes my immediate reaction to something never heard is.....less than approving. It's a lot like yours.
But sometimes....sometimes being "forced" to listen works a change of mind....being pushed, from time to time, outside yer normal listening zone allows for ultimately pleasant discoveries you'd never, ever, make on your own. 'Tis why I like this site so much. It never tries to give you what IT thinks you like....it's more a human provided smorgasbord of aural possibilities, usually thematically expressed. I hope it never changes because it's a desert out there in the land of the 'Net where such as this are concerned.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
Nah....here's the thing for me. Sometimes my immediate reaction to something never heard is.....less than approving. It's a lot like yours.
But sometimes....sometimes being "forced" to listen works a change of mind....being pushed, from time to time, outside yer normal listening zone allows for ultimately pleasant discoveries you'd never, ever, make on your own. 'Tis why I like this site so much. It never tries to give you what IT thinks you like....it's more a human provided smorgasbord of aural possibilities, usually thematically expressed. I hope it never changes because it's a desert out there in the land of the 'Net where such as this are concerned.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
jlind wrote:
There is a PSD button, which is essentially the same thing.
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
There is a PSD button, which is essentially the same thing.
jlind wrote:
dude plays harmonica, too.. fyi
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
dude plays harmonica, too.. fyi
jlind wrote:
(shrug) An 'eclectic' radio station will always play music that some listeners dislike. Just hit the mute button and ride it out until the next song. Easy-peasy.
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
(shrug) An 'eclectic' radio station will always play music that some listeners dislike. Just hit the mute button and ride it out until the next song. Easy-peasy.
jlind wrote:
There are songs outside of the U.S. and the U.K.
judging by your rating history you haven't really figured that out.
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
There are songs outside of the U.S. and the U.K.
judging by your rating history you haven't really figured that out.
Songs like this make me wish there was a skip option on RP
Anyone who has seen Habiib Koite and Bamada live, well, your appreciation of their music would be greatly enhanced. As I recall, Habib is a descendant of a long line of African troubadours who carried and broadcast news through music in their day. He has a degree in music from a university in France, and was teaching music when he decided to return to Africa and his native roots. Bonnie Rait said "I'd like the sweat from this man!"
Simply pure sweet music from the heart.
Simply pure sweet music from the heart.
tulinq wrote:
EXACTLY!
Habib Koite's music is beautiful and meaningful in any language, and it's clear that any artist can sing in almost any language, as they don't need really know the language, but only sing the song, translate or write directly in the language they want, sing a song of another person etc. As I'd already read (I'm not a good english writer, I know), Habib's lyrics in native language talk about life, single but important things of life. It's enough, I think. So, when I heard this beautiful song, I really don't mind if it was in english or french, or spanish or portuguese (my language). I felt the feeling and the meaning, and this was enough.
EXACTLY!
Kittee wrote:
What a foolish, irgnorent IDIOT,
I repeat,
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDIOT!!!!
you are!
Poor thing...!
Play your Deep Purple now!
FREAK!!!
No. Just no. 
What a foolish, irgnorent IDIOT,
I repeat,
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDIOT!!!!
you are!
Poor thing...!
Play your Deep Purple now!
FREAK!!!
HABIB HAS MORE MUSIC AND MELODY
IN HIS BLOOD
THAN 80% of the rest combined!!
PS
FREE JULIAN...!!!!!
IN HIS BLOOD
THAN 80% of the rest combined!!
PS
FREE JULIAN...!!!!!
I like Habib but this one, not so much
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Habib Koité & Bamada
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Kittee wrote:
Down girl! Baaadd Kittee.
No. Just no.
Down girl! Baaadd Kittee.
I wonder what it would sound like in Malian? Not bad as a spoken word piece.
Agree TerryS wrote:
Good music, awkward lyrics maybe, but still good music.
Good music, awkward lyrics maybe, but still good music.
..'nother over priced on Amazon CD sells fer 14.99 but U can get it at the Incredible AMAZON price of only $97.00( What is with that)
R they friggin" crazy???
R they friggin" crazy???
hcaudill wrote:
This is all assuming that he isn't fluent in English. How do you know that he isn't? Just because the lyrics are poetic and not "perfect" English sentences doesn't mean he "didn't have the words" to say what he felt. Poetry, whether spoken or sung, is about the feel of the words and what they convey, not about the grammar. If grammar was important in poetry, ee cummings would have never been successful!
FWIW I like this song and this artist a lot, no matter what language he's singing in.
rumplestiltskin wrote:
That did sound patronizing; I didn't mean it that way. I was really just trying to make a straightforward point about artistry in one's own language vs a language learned later in life. As it happens I lived in Africa for some years and speak a West African language (Pular). I can also speak with varying levels of incompetence in four other languages. In any language besides my first language, English - even ones that I've spoken since I was a child, such as Spanish - I'm inevitably forced to sacrifice nuance and sophistication, just because I don't have the words.
If I cared more, I'd be offended by these remarks ... "I'm sure he meant to say something more interesting, but that's all he had the words for." Certainly this is more than a little patronizing?
That did sound patronizing; I didn't mean it that way. I was really just trying to make a straightforward point about artistry in one's own language vs a language learned later in life. As it happens I lived in Africa for some years and speak a West African language (Pular). I can also speak with varying levels of incompetence in four other languages. In any language besides my first language, English - even ones that I've spoken since I was a child, such as Spanish - I'm inevitably forced to sacrifice nuance and sophistication, just because I don't have the words.
This is all assuming that he isn't fluent in English. How do you know that he isn't? Just because the lyrics are poetic and not "perfect" English sentences doesn't mean he "didn't have the words" to say what he felt. Poetry, whether spoken or sung, is about the feel of the words and what they convey, not about the grammar. If grammar was important in poetry, ee cummings would have never been successful!
FWIW I like this song and this artist a lot, no matter what language he's singing in.
Is this a remix of Kip's song for LaFonda at their wedding?
Thanks for playing Habib and Bamada! Lovely guitar and voice....
tulinq wrote:
tulinq, thanks for writing this, and RP thanks for introducing me to this one! great stuff ...
Habib Koite's music is beautiful and meaningful in any language, and it's clear that any artist can sing in almost any language, as they don't need really know the language, but only sing the song, translate or write directly in the language they want, sing a song of another person etc. As I'd already read (I'm not a good english writer, I know), Habib's lyrics in native language talk about life, single but important things of life. It's enough, I think. So, when I heard this beautiful song, I really don't mind if it was in english or french, or spanish or portuguese (my language). I felt the feeling and the meaning, and this was enough.
tulinq, thanks for writing this, and RP thanks for introducing me to this one! great stuff ...
I like .. a dentonotomy? 
Colin Hay, anyone?
Good music transcend all imposed limitations... be it the language or else.
Don't limit yourself.
Don't limit yourself.
No. Just no.
rumplestiltskin wrote:
That did sound patronizing; I didn't mean it that way. I was really just trying to make a straightforward point about artistry in one's own language vs a language learned later in life. As it happens I lived in Africa for some years and speak a West African language (Pular). I can also speak with varying levels of incompetence in four other languages. In any language besides my first language, English - even ones that I've spoken since I was a child, such as Spanish - I'm inevitably forced to sacrifice nuance and sophistication, just because I don't have the words.
If I cared more, I'd be offended by these remarks ... "I'm sure he meant to say something more interesting, but that's all he had the words for." Certainly this is more than a little patronizing?
That did sound patronizing; I didn't mean it that way. I was really just trying to make a straightforward point about artistry in one's own language vs a language learned later in life. As it happens I lived in Africa for some years and speak a West African language (Pular). I can also speak with varying levels of incompetence in four other languages. In any language besides my first language, English - even ones that I've spoken since I was a child, such as Spanish - I'm inevitably forced to sacrifice nuance and sophistication, just because I don't have the words.
Habib Koite's music is beautiful and meaningful in any language, and it's clear that any artist can sing in almost any language, as they don't need really know the language, but only sing the song, translate or write directly in the language they want, sing a song of another person etc. As I'd already read (I'm not a good english writer, I know), Habib's lyrics in native language talk about life, single but important things of life. It's enough, I think. So, when I heard this beautiful song, I really don't mind if it was in english or french, or spanish or portuguese (my language). I felt the feeling and the meaning, and this was enough.
This is rather special, I like it! Much Nicer than Cindy L!
dctrpunda wrote:
They don't notice huh? Lovely littel universe you live in. I want to strangle you every time you do this!
Sincerly,
The uptight, stressed out Type A guy that sits in the cube across from you. At least I smell better and drive a nicer car.. Speaking of which, in the summer you might want to up your clothes washing frequency.
Hilarious...YMMD.
Very nice... never heard them before. Good on you Bill
dctrpunda wrote:
They don't notice huh? Lovely littel universe you live in. I want to strangle you every time you do this!
Sincerly,
The uptight, stressed out Type A guy that sits in the cube across from you. At least I smell better and drive a nicer car.. Speaking of which, in the summer you might want to up your clothes washing frequency.
I'm glad I work at a company where even the most junior level people get their own office :oP.
And I ride a bike.
Hello,
I thought I just heard Bill announce this as "I Mada", but obviously this is "Kumbin". Both are excellent...
Neil
rumplestiltskin wrote:
If I cared more, I'd be offended by these remarks.
While you are entitled to your opinions and can like or dislike the song as much as you wish, I find perverse the thinking that because he's from Mali he *should* be singing *not* in English. He isn't part of some static museum installation for us to admire for its authenticity and essential difference-from-us. I would guess also that he isn't interested in playing into the current and self-satisfied African music appreciation movement sweeping America (and other parts?). Music/culture/art/(insert your favorite social construct here) evolve. He is a modern music maker, and can sing in whatever language he pleases.
Oh come on--get off your high horse! Of course he can sing in any language he wants. I've owned and loved this CD for years and have never thought about the language issue. But I also think there's a point to be made that when you create any sort of written art (a song, a poem, a book, etc) in a language in which you aren't totally fluent your work will be stilted; it will lack subtly and nuance. In some circumstances this is more positive than negative and some circumstances it's the opposite. And notice I'm talking about fluency not native language.
stickers11 wrote:
Would like this more, but gave it a 6 due to it being sung in English....Maybe he wanted to sing it in English but why not sing in your native tongue?
hcaudill wrote:
Yeah, when you sing (or talk) in a language you're not so familiar with, there's a limit to how subtle or nuanced you can be. Hence "I like technology, I like the Internet." I'm sure he meant to say something more interesting, but that's all he had the words for.
If I cared more, I'd be offended by these remarks.
While you are entitled to your opinions and can like or dislike the song as much as you wish, I find perverse the thinking that because he's from Mali he *should* be singing *not* in English. He isn't part of some static museum installation for us to admire for its authenticity and essential difference-from-us. I would guess also that he isn't interested in playing into the current and self-satisfied African music appreciation movement sweeping America (and other parts?). Music/culture/art/(insert your favorite social construct here) evolve. He is a modern music maker, and can sing in whatever language he pleases.
"I'm sure he meant to say something more interesting, but that's all he had the words for." Certainly this is more than a little patronizing?
stickers11 wrote:
Would like this more, but gave it a 6 due to it being sung in English....Maybe he wanted to sing it in English but why not sing in your native tongue?
Yeah, when you sing (or talk) in a language you're not so familiar with, there's a limit to how subtle or nuanced you can be. Hence "I like technology, I like the Internet." I'm sure he meant to say something more interesting, but that's all he had the words for.
Actually, something about this song is really bothering me...I had to turn it off. I think it's the very fast strings in the background...don't know why, but it started to give me a headache. Really.
Kind of a bummer....
We've kind of got a lovely sunny summer day theme going here and I'm enjoying it.
passsion8 wrote:
Just unplugged the headphones here at work. Everyone in my office area is groovin' to this and at the same time, they don't even notice that its playing. That's what I call soothing and rhythmic at the same time.
They don't notice huh? Lovely littel universe you live in. I want to strangle you every time you do this!
Sincerly,
The uptight, stressed out Type A guy that sits in the cube across from you. At least I smell better and drive a nicer car.. Speaking of which, in the summer you might want to up your clothes washing frequency.
Just unplugged the headphones here at work. Everyone in my office area is groovin' to this and at the same time, they don't even notice that its playing. That's what I call soothing and rhythmic at the same time.
Saw him at a benefit here in Providence... AWESOME SHOW!!! 
It was supposed to be a assigned seat show in a restored theater... but the crowd couldn't stay in their seats!! (this is one of his more mello tunes)
It was supposed to be a assigned seat show in a restored theater... but the crowd couldn't stay in their seats!! (this is one of his more mello tunes)I love technology
But not as much as you you see
Always and forever
Always and forever
So beutiful for a Friday morning! Thank you!
I give it, like, an 84, man. Like, the tune is cool, but I'd have to do one of those herky-jerky David Byrne moves to dance to it, and I'm way too spaz for that. Like, you know?
lester wrote:
I'm kinda on the fence. Hearing lyrics in English is usually nice, but that guitar sounds so exotic, the language doesn't seem to fit.
You are right. If he sang in, say, French, I would have had no clue he was singing "I like, I like the Internet. I like, I like technology."
(Not dissing him here - I DID like the music!)
stickers11 wrote:
Would like this more, but gave it a 6 due to it being sung in English....Maybe he wanted to sing it in English but why not sing in your native tongue?
I'm kinda on the fence. Hearing lyrics in English is usually nice, but that guitar sounds so exotic, the language doesn't seem to fit.
Greetings,
stickers11 wrote:
Would like this more, but gave it a 6 due to it being sung in English....Maybe he wanted to sing it in English but why not sing in your native tongue?
You're right, he normally sings in (at least) two languages other than English, and I know that there are three other songs on the RP playlist by Habib Koite (Qua-tay) that are also great music, and are in his "native" language(s?). AFAIK, this is the only song he sings in English-only...
(click here)
(click here)
(click here)
Neil
SaintAwesome wrote:I like, I like technology..." It made me smile. I hunted for the lyrics but found none listed... on the Internet.
I did enjoy the music though. 
LOL, this is too funny. Did he say he liked the internet?
I heard "
Wonderfully hypnotic. This took me very far away from the cold northeast on this dreary tuesday afternoon. thank you so much for this i love it!
LOL, this is too funny. Did he say he liked the internet?
Would like this more, but gave it a 6 due to it being sung in English....Maybe he wanted to sing it in English but why not sing in your native tongue?
Another fine track from an excellent album! Beautifully layered, with that deep bass doing just enough to shape the moment.
Enjoyable!
:sunny.gif:
Wonderful music. I hope we hear more songs, more often! Habib's guitar playing is subtle and complex - in a word: mesmerizing.
Neil