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Michael Miller — Carolina Skyline
Album: I Made You Up
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Released: 2009
Length: 5:14
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I thought it was Turin Brakes and stopped working to check it out. Closer listen it wasn't of course, but still a nice tune from an artist I hadn't heard of before. Wouldn't mind hearing more of him.
Posted 6 years ago by bluematrix    [ Reply ]
Love this song. Sounds exactly like Michael Miller.  With the headfones on the harmonics are awesome. Its even nice to drum to. I've got heaps of Lucinda Williams stuff and he doesn't sound anything like her to me. I do know he often uses Lucinda's bassist David Sutton and drummer Butch Norton who are obviously top musicians. Mur (Christchurch NZ)
Posted 7 years ago by murr69st335    [ Reply ]
Not my normal fare but for some reason I quite like it. Reminds me of the Swinging Steaks.
Posted 7 years ago by schitfitz    [ Reply ]
 kingart wrote:
This is a dude guy singing? Not a guest gal vocalist? Sounds like any of a half dozen or more lady warblers. But this is less disconcerting than the Silversun Pickups lead. I saw him on on a video singing what I had previously only heard. Now when Silversun hits RP, I I hit PSD or mute. Sorry, Silversun, maybe that's a bit of gender discrimination. On the other hand, maybe the Silversun lead (what's his name?) is affecting that voice, in which case I'll hit PSD all the faster.   

 
For the first graders out there... Yes, it is a "dude guy" singing not a "lady warbler". 




Posted 7 years ago by h8rhater    [ Reply ]
This is quite lovely.
Posted 10 years ago by WonderLizard    [ Reply ]
ohhhh the last few songs all seem to have slowly melted together into a mindless dirge.... quck get some energy back into things!
Posted 11 years ago by DavidS_UK    [ Reply ]
No comments for this fine song? Is it played on RP anymore? This guy's website is pretty thin on music though there is a live performance of the song on it. I bought this song off his website and lost it to a corrupt hard drive {#Sad} .
Posted 11 years ago by phlattop    [ Reply ]
This is a dude guy singing? Not a guest gal vocalist? Sounds like any of a half dozen or more lady warblers. But this is less disconcerting than the Silversun Pickups lead. I saw him on on a video singing what I had previously only heard. Now when Silversun hits RP, I I hit PSD or mute. Sorry, Silversun, maybe that's a bit of gender discrimination. On the other hand, maybe the Silversun lead (what's his name?) is affecting that voice, in which case I'll hit PSD all the faster.   
Posted 11 years ago by kingart    [ Reply ]
I like this song. Thank you for playing it.
Posted 11 years ago by fiddler    [ Reply ]
ugh, this is bad.
Posted 11 years ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
I like this guy, don't really know why though.{#Lol}
Posted 12 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
Harmonious. 9
Posted 12 years ago by d-don    [ Reply ]
 sfearll wrote:

ha, that's exactly what I was thinking...!

 
Lucinda?  i thought, cool, two Joan Osborne songs in less than an hour, when i looked up and saw it wasn't. 
Posted 12 years ago by nook    [ Reply ]
lol - compared to James Mercer of the Shins or that guy form Turin Brakes he's a 2nd tenor.
Posted 12 years ago by brandonjosborn    [ Reply ]
But compared to The Delays this guy definitely sounds like a guy.  Check out Wonderlust...
Posted 13 years ago by mread    [ Reply ]
 cohifi wrote:
I thought this was Lucinda Williams.  Guess not.
 
So did I - or Sam Phillips.  Still, I really like it and now that I know it's a guy, I still like it.  Might have to shell out more (more?! Geez, I'm living like there's no tomorrow!) money for this one.

Posted 13 years ago by Cynaera    [ Reply ]
 govna wrote:

hokey smokes indeed.  i was just about to say "there's no way this is a dude singing."  we get enough of that trickery with the silversun pickups.

 


However, I like The Silversun Pickups, this, meh.
Posted 13 years ago by keenevision    [ Reply ]
 govna wrote:
 i was just about to say "there's no way this is a dude singing."
 
same here!
Posted 13 years ago by domine-astronomy    [ Reply ]
 MojoJojo wrote:
Seriously?  I can't count the number of times I have heard this, but until never looked it up. I am stunned that this is not Lucinda Williams. Hokey smokes!  

 
hokey smokes indeed.  i was just about to say "there's no way this is a dude singing."  we get enough of that trickery with the silversun pickups.

Posted 13 years ago by govna    [ Reply ]
 Poacher wrote:

Splendid! Ordered via the RP Amazon link. Don't you love it finding good music and the artist benefit by actually paying for their efforts.
 

hear hear people!
Posted 13 years ago by elliotgoettelman    [ Reply ]
 cohifi wrote:
I thought this was Lucinda Williams.  Guess not.
 
My reaction exactly, until I turned the volume up a bit.  I'll admit to enjoying this more than most of what Lucinda's been putting out the past few years. An 8, and I could be convinced that it's worth more than that.

Posted 13 years ago by ladybinnath    [ Reply ]
I love this song!!!
Posted 13 years ago by swingtoto    [ Reply ]
 EssexTex wrote:
Michael...sounds more like Michelle
 
And your point is what exactly?
Posted 14 years ago by SquiddlyDiddly    [ Reply ]
Soothing—tho' a little tough to take on a Friday clock-watching-working-for-the-weekend-kind-of morning.

His voice is in the lighter quality range for a man, although not particularly high, while Joan and Linda are in the "heavier" range for women. And what about Mavis Staples? god—what a voice!—but there are times you could swear it was a man.

Doesn't make any of them less talented or enjoyable to listen to.

I had a choir director in jr high who hated Karen Carpenter—"that *&^%#@ female bass," he'd say.

What a putz.
Posted 14 years ago by jomercer    [ Reply ]
Seriously?  I can't count the number of times I have heard this, but until never looked it up. I am stunned that this is not Lucinda Williams. Hokey smokes!  

Posted 14 years ago by MojoJojo    [ Reply ]
{#Sleep}
Posted 14 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
Very nice!
Posted 14 years ago by helgigermany    [ Reply ]
 h8rhater wrote:
I want to thank RP for Michael Miller.  On the strength of this track, I gave his CD a try and ordered it from his website.  If you like this track... you will like the entire CD. 

A note about the purchase:  The disc came directly from Michael and he send a hand written thank you doodle along with the disc.  Cool guy.  Hope he makes it big.
 
Splendid! Ordered via the RP Amazon link. Don't you love it finding good music and the artist benefit by actually paying for their efforts.
Posted 14 years ago by SquiddlyDiddly    [ Reply ]
i immediately loved this guy's voice—-mighty purdy song. i'm a sucker for voices like his.
Posted 14 years ago by Giselle62    [ Reply ]
I thought this was Lucinda Williams.  Guess not.
Posted 14 years ago by cohifi    [ Reply ]
Love the lapsteel!! {#Clap}
Posted 14 years ago by Sjaaks    [ Reply ]
Michael...sounds more like Michelle
Posted 14 years ago by EssexTex    [ Reply ]
 osbyec wrote:
Ba-dum CHSHHH!

(that was a punch-line drum crash if you couldn't tell)
 
Excellent! Meet me down at Yuk Yuks, I could use your help. {#Yes}
Posted 14 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
 peter_james_bond wrote:

I'd like to see the Ministry of Agriculture cover this tune! Some talented folks there, in fact I've heard they are outstanding in their field! {#Cheesygrin}

 

Ba-dum CHSHHH!

(that was a punch-line drum crash if you couldn't tell)
Posted 14 years ago by osbyec    [ Reply ]
     {#Yawn}
Posted 14 years ago by HazzeSwede    [ Reply ]
I want to thank RP for Michael Miller.  On the strength of this track, I gave his CD a try and ordered it from his website.  If you like this track... you will like the entire CD. 

A note about the purchase:  The disc came directly from Michael and he send a hand written thank you doodle along with the disc.  Cool guy.  Hope he makes it big.
Posted 14 years ago by h8rhater    [ Reply ]
This song is going to grow on me. Nice!
Posted 14 years ago by ambrebalte    [ Reply ]
This is very moving.  Great music. Great voice.
Posted 14 years ago by ad4tise    [ Reply ]
 jesspra wrote:
Damn, I liked this new direction Lucinda Williams was going in.
 
{#Lol}

Posted 14 years ago by lophrequa    [ Reply ]
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzz
Posted 15 years ago by RadioDoc    [ Reply ]
 jesspra wrote:
Damn, I liked this new direction Lucinda Williams was going in.
 
ha, that's exactly what I was thinking...!

Posted 15 years ago by sfearll    [ Reply ]
Sounds like the dude from Turin Brakes.
Posted 15 years ago by AphidA    [ Reply ]
Damn, I liked this new direction Lucinda Williams was going in.
Posted 15 years ago by jesspra    [ Reply ]
This guy needs to do a cover of Nick Gilder's "Hot Child in the City." Thought HE was a girl too, back in the day.
Posted 15 years ago by Essbee    [ Reply ]
 EssexTex wrote:
I'd like to see Ministry cover this
 
I'd like to see the Ministry of Agriculture cover this tune! Some talented folks there, in fact I've heard they are outstanding in their field! {#Cheesygrin}

Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
 DaveInVA wrote:
I thought it was a female singer also...
 

Joan Osborne.

Posted 15 years ago by Jack_Jefferson    [ Reply ]
 Jared wrote:
Not a big fan of her music. Very well produced, but boring.
 
My sentiments exactly.

Posted 15 years ago by iscoot4peace    [ Reply ]
Not a big fan of her music. Very well produced, but boring.
Posted 15 years ago by Jared    [ Reply ]
I love Michael Millers music and I am not even a Christian!{#Lol}
Posted 15 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
 DaveInVA wrote:
I thought it was a female singer also...
 
Wait. That's a DUDE singing? No. Way.

Posted 15 years ago by rtrudeau    [ Reply ]
michael miller
Posted 15 years ago by a_genuine_find    [ Reply ]
I'd like to see Ministry cover this
Posted 15 years ago by EssexTex    [ Reply ]
the worst music in rp.
Posted 15 years ago by dreveck    [ Reply ]
I thought it was a female singer also...
Posted 15 years ago by DaveInSaoMiguel    [ Reply ]
carolina sunset
            {#Cool}Carolina {#Curtain}(Mountain){#Sunny}Sunset {#Clap}
Posted 15 years ago by a_genuine_find    [ Reply ]
 YourNameHere wrote:

I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

I suspect your discomfort comes from the fact you were turned on by what you imagined was a hot chick singing a great song and then were disappointed to discover it was a guy.  Kind of like when you're behind the hot chick in line with the great hair and tight ass and then they turn around and you find to your horror it's a guy with a beard.   (Damn Hippies)

Just listen to the song and forget about who's singing it.   If you filter your art based upon preconceived notions you'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff.  Admit it, if this had been sung by a woman you would have given it an 8.
 
A bit like the Turin Brakes syndrome?
 
Posted 15 years ago by dc_zee    [ Reply ]
{#Motor}
Posted 15 years ago by punkbot    [ Reply ]
 WayUpNorth wrote:
I thought it was Joan Osborne for a minute ...
 
totally.  Like it!

Posted 15 years ago by More_Cowbell    [ Reply ]
 Carolina skyline at dusk
Posted 15 years ago by Mandible    [ Reply ]
Quite nice, but far too repetitive with the lyrics, particularly at the end
Posted 15 years ago by AdyMiles    [ Reply ]
Touch of that old Pink Floyd slow motion spacey sound. {#Music}
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
Wuss or not, still like it.
Posted 15 years ago by Felix_The_Cat    [ Reply ]
Dum-di-dum-dum. Blah...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted 15 years ago by larkie    [ Reply ]
 randomprime wrote:
In the picture on the album cover he reminds me of Matt Dillon's character from Singles. The voice evokes a less haggard Lucinda Williams. On Paxil. 

 

I was thinking a more feminine Lucinda Williams, myself.
Posted 15 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
 oawhoo wrote:
Monotonous, boring and played too often. Take it out of circulation.
 
I second that.

Posted 15 years ago by cirruss    [ Reply ]
 ChasingRabbit wrote:
A very beautiful song. I love it.
 
I do too! {#Daisy}
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
Monotonous, boring and played too often. Take it out of circulation.
Posted 15 years ago by oawhoo    [ Reply ]
 Wizzuvv_oz wrote:
Like a Mach piece.  "Makes you weep instantly." ~Nigel Tufnel
 
"It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever." ~David St. Hubbins

Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
What a plodder. A total snooze.

"3 - Ho Hum" musta been designed for this song.

Posted 15 years ago by liveinthewire    [ Reply ]
The CD has been released (July 7, 2009) - This guy has a lot of friends, here's a list of guest artists on his CD - this list comes from a glowing review in Blurt magazine:

'It's no surprise then that I Made You Up boasts an all-star indie cast, with guest appearances from Amy Correia, Pete Yorn, Tracy Bonham and others, plus a Who's Who of LA's finest (Brendan Buckley, Dan Rothchild, Eric Heywood, Patrick Warren, Lyle Workman, Rami Jaffee, Ben Peeler, Stevie Blacke, Adam Zimmon, and Mike Roe).'

Click on the album cover to go to the review. New Album

Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
In the picture on the album cover he reminds me of Matt Dillon's character from Singles. The voice evokes a less haggard Lucinda Williams. On Paxil. 

Posted 15 years ago by randomprime    [ Reply ]
A very beautiful song. I love it.
Posted 15 years ago by ChasingRabbit    [ Reply ]
Can this mp3 be purchased anywhere or has it just not been released?

BB
Posted 15 years ago by bbryan    [ Reply ]
 YourNameHere wrote:

I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

 
So, ...he's singing like a girl, right?{#Angel}

Posted 15 years ago by drtjdel    [ Reply ]
 YourNameHere wrote:

I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

I suspect your discomfort comes from the fact you were turned on by what you imagined was a hot chick singing a great song and then were disappointed to discover it was a guy.  Kind of like when you're behind the hot chick in line with the great hair and tight ass and then they turn around and you find to your horror it's a guy with a beard.   (Damn Hippies)

Just listen to the song and forget about who's singing it.   If you filter your art based upon preconceived notions you'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff.  Admit it, if this had been sung by a woman you would have given it an 8.

 
I will admit, those damn hippies have got me once or twice at the supermarket.  But lets face it... dude really does sound like a chick.  And now that we are on the topic he is lookin quite pretty on the cover image.  Perhaps I am just jealous of that hair (I have always wanted curly hair... alas)!  Dude is probably a chick magnet now that I think about it.

Unfortunately, none of that makes him any less of a wuss.  Nor does it make the song any better than a 4 in my book.

Chad = {#Cowboy}
Posted 15 years ago by ch83575    [ Reply ]
 YourNameHere wrote:

I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

I suspect your discomfort comes from the fact you were turned on by what you imagined was a hot chick singing a great song and then were disappointed to discover it was a guy.  Kind of like when you're behind the hot chick in line with the great hair and tight ass and then they turn around and you find to your horror it's a guy with a beard.   (Damn Hippies)

Just listen to the song and forget about who's singing it.   If you filter your art based upon preconceived notions you'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff.  Admit it, if this had been sung by a woman you would have given it an 8.
 

LOL!! Touche'!
Posted 15 years ago by LowPhreak    [ Reply ]
Actually he does kinda sing like a girl.

 YourNameHere wrote:

I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

I suspect your discomfort comes from the fact you were turned on by what you imagined was a hot chick singing a great song and then were disappointed to discover it was a guy.  Kind of like when you're behind the hot chick in line with the great hair and tight ass and then they turn around and you find to your horror it's a guy with a beard.   (Damn Hippies)

Just listen to the song and forget about who's singing it.   If you filter your art based upon preconceived notions you'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff.  Admit it, if this had been sung by a woman you would have given it an 8.

 


Posted 15 years ago by cirruss    [ Reply ]
 ch83575 wrote:

So I actually just gave it some thought.  Here is what I came up with:

I hate wussiness (if that is a word).  This guy is a wuss, or at the very least he sounds like a wuss.  I like androgyny; I am a huge Bowie fan.  Bowie at one point was very androgynous, but he was never a wuss; if anything he was more of a rebellious bad-ass.  A man singing like a woman connotes wussiness, while a woman singing like a woman has no wussie connotations at all.  Furthermore a woman singing like a man connotes strength, which does not bother me at all. 

-Chad

 
I'd argue he's not singing like a woman, he's singing like a guy in an octave you don't associate with men generally singing in.

I suspect your discomfort comes from the fact you were turned on by what you imagined was a hot chick singing a great song and then were disappointed to discover it was a guy.  Kind of like when you're behind the hot chick in line with the great hair and tight ass and then they turn around and you find to your horror it's a guy with a beard.   (Damn Hippies)

Just listen to the song and forget about who's singing it.   If you filter your art based upon preconceived notions you'll be missing out on a lot of great stuff.  Admit it, if this had been sung by a woman you would have given it an 8.

Posted 15 years ago by YourNameHere    [ Reply ]
 ch83575 wrote:

So I actually just gave it some thought.  Here is what I came up with:

I hate wussiness (if that is a word).  This guy is a wuss, or at the very least he sounds like a wuss.  I like androgyny; I am a huge Bowie fan.  Bowie at one point was very androgynous, but he was never a wuss; if anything he was more of a rebellious bad-ass.  A man singing like a woman connotes wussiness, while a woman singing like a woman has no wussie connotations at all.  Furthermore a woman singing like a man connotes strength, which does not bother me at all. 

So:
Androgyny & Ambiguity = Good (or at the very least interesting)
Strength = Good
Wussiness = Bad

My position is not anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-androgynous or anti-anythingelse except anti-wussie.  I am anti-wussie.  I don't think this makes me behind the times at all... if anything I am ahead of the times.  I predict that in the not to distant future the world will tire of its current facination with wussyism.  Then you will all have egg on your faces won't you  {#Cowboy} (cowboys are not wussies, which is why I have included one here)

-Chad

 
Chad,

I'm laughing my a** off! Your considered response, and "intriguing" argument, is so bizarre that it almost makes sense ...and it's also dam funny, so I have to give you points for that.(and a point for the cowboy) I feel like I just read part of a TV sitcom script. {#Roflol}

And alux your short, cutting, response to Chad is classic as well! Ah the fun on RP!
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
Chad, you are such a wuss.

 ch83575 wrote:

So I actually just gave it some thought.  Here is what I came up with:

I hate wussiness (if that is a word).  This guy is a wuss, or at the very least he sounds like a wuss.  I like androgyny; I am a huge Bowie fan.  Bowie at one point was very androgynous, but he was never a wuss; if anything he was more of a rebellious bad-ass.  A man singing like a woman connotes wussiness, while a woman singing like a woman has no wussie connotations at all.  Furthermore a woman singing like a man connotes strength, which does not bother me at all. 

So:
Androgyny & Ambiguity = Good (or at the very least interesting)
Strength = Good
Wussiness = Bad

My position is not anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-androgynous or anti-anythingelse except anti-wussie.  I am anti-wussie.  I don't think this makes me behind the times at all... if anything I am ahead of the times.  I predict that in the not to distant future the world will tire of its current facination with wussyism.  Then you will all have egg on your faces won't you  {#Cowboy} (cowboys are not wussies, which is why I have included one here)

-Chad
 


Posted 15 years ago by alux    [ Reply ]
 peter_james_bond wrote:
 
Essbee wrote:
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
  ch83575 wrote:

I am with you all the way.  Even after looking I am having a hard time convincing myself that this is a dude.  You know how under special conditions an amphibian can change genders?  I'm just sayin... maybe?

BTW:  I do hate the silversun pickups

 
What?.....Let me check the calender, yes it is 2009, not 1799.  Are you guys for real? {#Stupid}
 
So I actually just gave it some thought.  Here is what I came up with:

I hate wussiness (if that is a word).  This guy is a wuss, or at the very least he sounds like a wuss.  I like androgyny; I am a huge Bowie fan.  Bowie at one point was very androgynous, but he was never a wuss; if anything he was more of a rebellious bad-ass.  A man singing like a woman connotes wussiness, while a woman singing like a woman has no wussie connotations at all.  Furthermore a woman singing like a man connotes strength, which does not bother me at all. 

So:
Androgyny & Ambiguity = Good (or at the very least interesting)
Strength = Good
Wussiness = Bad

My position is not anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-androgynous or anti-anythingelse except anti-wussie.  I am anti-wussie.  I don't think this makes me behind the times at all... if anything I am ahead of the times.  I predict that in the not to distant future the world will tire of its current facination with wussyism.  Then you will all have egg on your faces won't you  {#Cowboy} (cowboys are not wussies, which is why I have included one here)

-Chad

Posted 15 years ago by ch83575    [ Reply ]
 
Essbee wrote:
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
  ch83575 wrote:

I am with you all the way.  Even after looking I am having a hard time convincing myself that this is a dude.  You know how under special conditions an amphibian can change genders?  I'm just sayin... maybe?

BTW:  I do hate the silversun pickups

 
What?.....Let me check the calender, yes it is 2009, not 1799.  Are you guys for real? {#Stupid}
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
 Essbee wrote:
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
 
I am with you all the way.  Even after looking I am having a hard time convincing myself that this is a dude.  You know how under special conditions an amphibian can change genders?  I'm just sayin... maybe?

BTW:  I do hate the silversun pickups

Posted 15 years ago by ch83575    [ Reply ]
Hmmm, I think I like it.  I feel like it would grow on my a little more if I heard it a couple more times.
Posted 15 years ago by K_Love    [ Reply ]
I thought it was Joan Osborne for a minute ...
Posted 15 years ago by WayUpNorth    [ Reply ]
...i can think of at least one recent song by joan armatrading which for quite some time i thought was sung by a man - great song, regardless...
Posted 15 years ago by mandolin    [ Reply ]
Sincere, poignant, catchy, sticks to ya.
Posted 15 years ago by gjeeg    [ Reply ]
 Essbee wrote:
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
 

You must HATE Silversun Pickups then.  Their singer has a very feminine quality. 
Posted 15 years ago by TJS    [ Reply ]
I kinda like it as it is . . . doesn't matter what gender the singer is. However, being from Canada, my first thought was that this was Jann Arden (from Calgary). Very similar style and voice qualities. 


coolpeople_rule wrote:


This is an excellent example of ignorance is bliss. If you did not know it was a guy singing, it would actually be quite enjoyable...because it is a great song!
 


Posted 15 years ago by Lakeview    [ Reply ]
 coolpeople_rule wrote:


This is an excellent example of ignorance is bliss. If you did not know it was a guy singing, it would actually be quite enjoyable...because it is a great song!
 
Agreed.  Very nice song.  I wish I could sing as well as Mr. Miller here.

Posted 15 years ago by swruch    [ Reply ]
 Essbee wrote:
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
 

This is an excellent example of ignorance is bliss. If you did not know it was a guy singing, it would actually be quite enjoyable...because it is a great song!
Posted 15 years ago by coolpeople_rule    [ Reply ]
This is an okay song but Bruce Peninsula - Steamroller is a better song in the same key.

Posted 15 years ago by cartoon_nate    [ Reply ]
Dunno, just bothers me when a man sings like a woman. It just does.
Posted 15 years ago by Essbee    [ Reply ]
I'm liking this more every time I hear it.  Up to an 8 now.
Posted 15 years ago by ptooey    [ Reply ]
 equanimoose wrote:
Great tune. I tried to buy it on Amazon immediately but it was not there. The world needs more men who can sing like Lucinda Williams and more steel guitar.
 
{#Yes} Lucinda Williams...but I like this!


Posted 15 years ago by meadowwoods    [ Reply ]
Thanks RP  love this song
Posted 15 years ago by shemp    [ Reply ]
this song is a ten
perfection
(I just plain love it—not sure why)


Posted 15 years ago by Wizzuvvoz    [ Reply ]
When you have a nice sound, why not take the time to break up the repetitive bits?  Certainly a more creative approach could be taken to try "alternate" vocal strings.  *shrug
Posted 15 years ago by wenatchee    [ Reply ]
This song moves me in a good way. 
Posted 15 years ago by zoomzip    [ Reply ]
 ProgFusion wrote:

.....I think it's just because of the way our brains are wired - minor keys, and more complex chords, just get more of the brain involved. The most beautiful music seems to bring tears of both joy and sadness.....

 
Like a Mach piece.  "Makes you weep instantly." ~Nigel Tufnel

Posted 15 years ago by Wizzuvvoz    [ Reply ]
Thanks, Tim_in_N_FL.

And thanks, nevar23. That's a really interesting quote from Nick Cave.

I wasn't familiar with the term "duende," so thanks for that too. I found an interesting discussion about it here: https://www.answers.com/topic/duende-art.

I liked Nick's discussion about which groups or individuals have duende, though I can't agree with him when he suggests that duende can't survive the modern music industry. I gave at least one example of a current group that, in my opinion, has it, not to mention the fact that Radio Paradise proves its modern existence every day.

I would agree with him, however, that you would be hard-pressed to find duende in today's corporate-controlled, pre-packaged, mainstream music. Artists like Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, and Beyonce may have talent, and their songs may sometimes be catchy (in small doses), but I can't say that I have ever found their music beautiful.

Posted 15 years ago by ProgFusion    [ Reply ]
 ProgFusion wrote:

I don't think that we're suffering from mass depression, although certain musical eras (e.g. Grunge) have tended to represent a general dissatisfaction by some portion of society.

I agree, however, that there appears to be a link between beautiful music, and sad music. Almost all of the music that I consider to be the most beautiful falls into a category that I call sweet-sad.

I think it's just because of the way our brains are wired - minor keys, and more complex chords, just get more of the brain involved. The most beautiful music seems to bring tears of both joy and sadness.

Of course, when you think about it, our brain circuitry must be involved. I could imagine aliens finding it really strange that we would be affected emotionally by combinations of vibrations, something that might strike tham as just math.

It isn't only music. I find the same sweet-sad quality in certain instruments (mellotron, violin, "crying" electric guitar, etc.) and voices (John Wetton of King Crimson, Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, Ray Thomas of The Moody Blues, Annie Haslam of Renaissance, etc.).

There are lots of examples of music with that sweet-sad quality. Some that I can think of off hand include: "It's My Life" by Talk Talk, "Fires (Which Burnt Brightly)" by Procol Harum, "In My Time Of Need" by Opeth, "Edelweiss" from The Sound of Music, "Duetto (The Flower Duet)" from the opera Lakme, and (my favorite) Beethoven's "Symphony No. 7, Second Movement." (Note: Those links take you to YouTube, so don't click them if you can't live without your Radio Paradise fix for a few moments.)


 
{#Clap} Excellent post. Nick Cave gave an interesting talk that addresses the whole topic as it applies to love songs. An excerpt:

"In his brilliant lecture entitled "The Theory and Function of Duende" Frederico Garcia Lorca attempts to shed some light on the eerie and inexplicable sadness that lives in the heart of certain works of art. "All that has dark sound has duende", he says, "that mysterious power that everyone feels but no philosopher can explain." In contemporary rock music, the area in which I operate, music seems less inclined to have its soul, restless and quivering, the sadness that Lorca talks about. Excitement, often; anger, sometimes: but true sadness, rarely, Bob Dylan has always had it. Leonard Cohen deals specifically in it. It pursues Van Morrison like a black dog and though he tries to he cannot escape it. Tom Waits and Neil Young can summon it. It haunts Polly Harvey. My friend and Dirty 3 have it by the bucket load. The band Spiritualised are excited by it. Tindersticks desperately want it, but all in all it would appear that duende is too fragile to survive the brutality of technology and the ever increasing acceleration of the music industry. Perhaps there is just no money in sadness, no dollars in duende. Sadness or duende needs space to breathe. Melancholy hates haste and floats in silence. It must be handled with care."

The whole thing: https://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=800055

Posted 15 years ago by nevar23    [ Reply ]
lovely!
Posted 15 years ago by tugandbuster    [ Reply ]
 ProgFusion wrote:

I don't think that we're suffering from mass depression, although certain musical eras (e.g. Grunge) have tended to represent a general dissatisfaction by some portion of society.

I agree, however, that there appears to be a link between beautiful music, and sad music. Almost all of the music that I consider to be the most beautiful falls into a category that I call sweet-sad.

I think it's just because of the way our brains are wired - minor keys, and more complex chords, just get more of the brain involved. The most beautiful music seems to bring tears of both joy and sadness.

Of course, when you think about it, our brain circuitry must be involved. I could imagine aliens finding it really strange that we would be affected emotionally by combinations of vibrations, something that might strike tham as just math.

It isn't only music. I find the same sweet-sad quality in certain instruments (mellotron, violin, "crying" electric guitar, etc.) and voices (John Wetton of King Crimson, Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, Ray Thomas of The Moody Blues, Annie Haslam of Renaissance, etc.).

There are lots of examples of music with that sweet-sad quality. Some that I can think of off hand include: "It's My Life" by Talk Talk, "Fires (Which Burnt Brightly)" by Procol Harum, "In My Time Of Need" by Opeth, "Edelweiss" from The Sound of Music, "Duetto (The Flower Duet)" from the opera Lakme, and (my favorite) Beethoven's "Symphony No. 7, Second Movement." (Note: Those links take you to YouTube, so don't click them if you can't live without your Radio Paradise fix for a few moments.)


 
An interesting set of propositions...nicely elaborated upon, ProgFusion.  Thank you. {#Cheers}
Posted 15 years ago by Tim_in_N_FL    [ Reply ]
kesheta wrote:
Why is that so many songs I hear and love on RP actually feature a singer whose tone is that of depression?...

I think if we look back on this era from the future we will see a generation which suffered from mass depression.

I don't think that we're suffering from mass depression, although certain musical eras (e.g. Grunge) have tended to represent a general dissatisfaction by some portion of society.

I agree, however, that there appears to be a link between beautiful music, and sad music. Almost all of the music that I consider to be the most beautiful falls into a category that I call sweet-sad.

I think it's just because of the way our brains are wired - minor keys, and more complex chords, just get more of the brain involved. The most beautiful music seems to bring tears of both joy and sadness.

Of course, when you think about it, our brain circuitry must be involved. I could imagine aliens finding it really strange that we would be affected emotionally by combinations of vibrations, something that might strike tham as just math.

It isn't only music. I find the same sweet-sad quality in certain instruments (mellotron, violin, "crying" electric guitar, etc.) and voices (John Wetton of King Crimson, Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, Ray Thomas of The Moody Blues, Annie Haslam of Renaissance, etc.).

There are lots of examples of music with that sweet-sad quality. Some that I can think of off hand include: "It's My Life" by Talk Talk, "Fires (Which Burnt Brightly)" by Procol Harum, "In My Time Of Need" by Opeth, "Edelweiss" from The Sound of Music, "Duetto (The Flower Duet)" from the opera Lakme, and (my favorite) Beethoven's "Symphony No. 7, Second Movement." (Note: Those links take you to YouTube, so don't click them if you can't live without your Radio Paradise fix for a few moments.)


Posted 15 years ago by ProgFusion    [ Reply ]
Why is that so many songs I hear and love on RP actually feature a singer whose tone is that of depression?

Nick Drake, for instance. His voice resonates so strongly inside.

Smashing Pumpkins.

I think if we look back on this era from the future we will see a generation which suffered from mass depression.

There is nothing to do anymore. Except shop.

Or make great radio stations on the Intertubes.

Keep on keeping on.


Posted 15 years ago by kesheta    [ Reply ]
I've only heard this song four or five times, but I tend to enjoy it more with each listen.
Posted 15 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
Great tune. I tried to buy it on Amazon immediately but it was not there. The world needs more men who can sing like Lucinda Williams and more steel guitar.
Posted 15 years ago by equanimoose    [ Reply ]
This must 4th or 5th time I've heard this. It just keeps growing on me. sweet slide guitar.

and it really does sound like Lucinda.


Posted 15 years ago by phlattop    [ Reply ]
 freeform wrote:
And i'm hearing some Neil Young in there.
Always a good thing. 
 
Nice tune.  I'm hearing "One of Us" (written by Eric Bazilian) as performed by Joan Osbourne (circa '94)...

Posted 15 years ago by Tim_in_N_FL    [ Reply ]
 Wizzuvv_oz wrote:
this song really grabs my ear.  like, immediately.  most excellent.  very simple (to my ears anyway), but beautiful.
this was an 8 for me on first listen and it's up to 9 now

 
I agree! I went to the website and there are a couple more songs you can listen to there, they are also good. This guy is a real RP find for me. Well done Bill and Rebecca. {#Clap}
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
Joan Osbourne
Posted 15 years ago by More_Cowbell    [ Reply ]
Beautiful flow to this music......if you'd stop playing such good stuff I might be able to finish my work and get out of the office.....not a chance I suppose....thanks anyway.
Posted 15 years ago by dBdwg    [ Reply ]
We were floored to hear this at a local concert tonight, recognizing it immediately. Only after realizing we'd heard it first on RP. Wow Bill, you rock at finding cool stuff! Thanks!

btw- his other stuff is really good too. 
Posted 15 years ago by jstrait    [ Reply ]
And i'm hearing some Neil Young in there.
Always a good thing. 
Posted 15 years ago by freeform    [ Reply ]
Me too!

 ScopArch wrote:

and I could have sworn it was Lucinda Williams!

 


Posted 15 years ago by anniebear    [ Reply ]
This is very, very pretty.
Posted 15 years ago by WonderLizard    [ Reply ]
this song really grabs my ear.  like, immediately.  most excellent.  very simple (to my ears anyway), but beautiful.
this was an 8 for me on first listen and it's up to 9 now

Posted 15 years ago by Wizzuvvoz    [ Reply ]
Pretty good.  Too bad the record started skipping and repeating there at the end.
Posted 15 years ago by jzekeb    [ Reply ]
Fantastic country guit.!
Posted 15 years ago by nigelr    [ Reply ]