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When all the men have lost their joy
And they can't find the ones they left behind
Harder still to think of being a man
In this world of no lessons or love
It's only war that men be thinking of
Should you stay or should you come down with me?
Is that the question you're asking of me?
And do you think that you can take the answer as it tells
You have to wear life well?
Come down with me
Come when you need me
But for now I want you to be happy
Sometimes life does things to you
That will hurt you and confuse you
But when you look behind you're sure to find
I am with you though I can't come with you
I am in you and I'm always part of you
And all you ever have to do to bring me to you is
Come down with me
Come when you need me
But for now I want you to be happy
So you must go back home
That's where you belong
You must go back home
You must go back home
That's where you belong
You must go back home
And I can't come along
Thinking of Sinead's son RIP
thats what this song is to me .... she is singing to her son.
If you have the opportunity to watch (and listen to) this movie (Nothing Compares) about Sinéad, I highly recommend it. Her commitment is genuine, and total. She will provoke you. However you feel about that is fine.
I agree completely. Her loss still breaks my heart.
has a Daniel Lanois feel...
he produced the track...unmistakable
Thinking of Sinead's son RIP
And very sadly, now Sinead also. Another tragic loss.
I think I've jus t fallen in love with Sinead's music again - having lost it for a long time.
me too. may she R.I.P.
p.s.
Hey Mr. Eclectic,
Why not play the Stones' 'SOME GIRLS' after Mizz Shavequat's tripe?
It'd be big fun
If you have the opportunity to watch (and listen) to this movie (Nothing Compares) about Sinéad, I highly recommend it. Her commitment is genuine, and total. She will provoke you. However you feel about that is fine.
Thanks. Will check it out. Sinead's complicated. I've been critical of her choices as a person but never questioned her talent.
I agree fredriley. And I'm amazed at how frequently a few males find offense and have to slash back at the merest hint of complaint, which, like you, I don't find here. But somehow they did. Skin that thin seems antithetical to the notion of a strong man.
What is the point of wringing your hands over gender roles. People are free to make their own decisions. If you don't fit into someone else's opinion of what constitutes masculinity or femininity, should you care?
Outstanding.
fredriley wrote:
I agree fredriley. And I'm amazed at how frequently a few males find offense and have to slash back at the merest hint of complaint, which, like you, I don't find here. But somehow they did. Skin that thin seems antithetical to the notion of a strong man.
Masculinised theocracy...... that is a first for me but it works. Bet it would be popular in Québec where fallen Catholics are now the rule.
Too bad people see social roles of the sexes as partisan contests between forces of good and evil. But then it probably helped American justify recent aerial bombing campaigns against Arab and Muslim grandmothers, mothers, sisters and baby daughters turning the USA (once again) into the greatest terrorist nation state on the planet.
Palestinian women are backwards so why wouldn't American women support ethnic cleansing these backward populations?
Man, I can sympathize with the outrage but listen to the music and relax.
+1 - Sinead is pretty awesome...this is a 9....LLRP!!
That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in ages. Sinead is renowned worldwide for having one of the best voices of the past 40 years. Dolores is a freakin' screecher that shouldn't be allowed within a 100 yards of a recording studio ever again.
I like 'em both, but i'm easy like that... RIP Delores!
That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in ages. Sinead is renowned worldwide for having one of the best voices of the past 40 years. Dolores is a freakin' screecher that shouldn't be allowed within a 100 yards of a recording studio ever again.
Absolutely right!
There's a global bond among mothers.
Anyways that was the covenance.
(Now do you know why I was shorter than corn?)
And, It depends on where you start.
How about an a priori where you belong?
That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in ages. Sinead is renowned worldwide for having one of the best voices of the past 40 years. Dolores is a freakin' screecher that shouldn't be allowed within a 100 yards of a recording studio ever again.
ah, such a debate!
lol
For many years I’ve judged Sinead by her antics back in the day. Of late I’ve actually started to listen her music. While I still find much of her work a bit “Ho-Hum” I can’t deny that when she gets it right she can really deliver.
Still not a patch on Dolores O'Riordan though.
That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in ages. Sinead is renowned worldwide for having one of the best voices of the past 40 years. Dolores is a freakin' screecher that shouldn't be allowed within a 100 yards of a recording studio ever again.
And Romeotuma likes it, so there.
Everybody in my homeless camp loves this song...
hope you are having a marvelous time these days, djengs...
For many years I’ve judged Sinead by her antics back in the day. Of late I’ve actually started to listen her music. While I still find much of her work a bit “Ho-Hum” I can’t deny that when she gets it right she can really deliver.
Still not a patch on Dolores O'Riordan though.
I always liked her antics and her voice. Didn't always dig all her music, but this song is fantastic.
For many years I’ve judged Sinead by her antics back in the day. Of late I’ve actually started to listen her music. While I still find much of her work a bit “Ho-Hum” I can’t deny that when she gets it right she can really deliver.
Still not a patch on Dolores O'Riordan though.
It sounds quite sympathetic to mens' situation, and how they're often trapped in masculine roles which separate them from women. "But for now I want you to be happy" is hardly man-hating. Don't forget that Sinead comes from the highly masculinised theocracy of Ireland (where I had some of my upbringing) where social and gender roles were rigidly prescribed until relatively recently. Whilst women get the rough end of the pineapple in Ireland, it's no party for the men either.
Masculinised theocracy...... that is a first for me but it works. Bet it would be popular in Québec where fallen Catholics are now the rule.
Too bad people see social roles of the sexes as partisan contests between forces of good and evil. But then it probably helped American justify recent aerial bombing campaigns against Arab and Muslim grandmothers, mothers, sisters and baby daughters turning the USA (once again) into the greatest terrorist nation state on the planet.
Palestinian women are backwards so why wouldn't American women support ethnic cleansing these backward populations?
Actually, as a father wishing the best for his kids, I don't see this song as blaming "men" for anything. It's too bad that some people choose to turn any song written by a woman into man-bashing.
Yeah. Keep your head in the sand and keep wishing. That's been such an effective strategy so far.
It might as well be all because certainly, the increasingly misandrist and anti-male laws and policies being passed are coming from somewhere and sure as shit no women seem to express much concern as long as they get a benefit from it.
I haven't seen anything but celebration at the fact that more and more women and fewer and fewer men are getting university degrees.
Men are still overwhelmingly behind in the employment ground they lost during the great recession while women are back at pre-recession employment levels. See any women wringing their hands over that inequity?
See any women giving a rat's ass that 95% of workplace deaths are male while they shriek about the wage gap myth?
See any women working to end prostate cancer?
See any women speaking out about the exploding male levels of homelessness? Incarceration? Suicide? Drug addiction? Mental illness? All of which, by the way, males are the vast majority.
Yeah, not all women are to blame. Funny how quick a woman is to say that and yet we get quotes like these from those enlightened feminist thinkers:
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” – Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor (So many years later, it is easy to see where this piece of "brilliant" thinking has gotten us.
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” -– Valerie Solanas
“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller
“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart
“All men are rapists and that’s all they are” — Marilyn French
So true! Rock on Sistah, keep speaking the truth!
Crazy chicks rock!
I'd happily leave it at that but for the self absorbed misogynistic douchebags who abuse this forum to vent their spooky opinions.
Hey fellas, grow up, this is another strong and musically sophisticated piece by a beautiful artist.
I love Sinead's voice and style.. rock on Sinead..
Here's an idea -- how about just enjoying or NOT enjoying the music and leaving assignment of fault alone?
Actually, as a father wishing the best for his kids, I don't see this song as blaming "men" for anything. It's too bad that some people choose to turn any song written by a woman into man-bashing.
"Back Where You Belong"
be a boy
when
all the men have
lost their joy
and they can't find the ones they left behind.
Harder still to think
of being a man
in this world of
no lessons or love,
it's only war that men be thinking of.
Should you stay
or should you come down with me?
Is that the question
you are asking of me?
And do you think that you can
take the answer?
As it turns,
you have to wear life well.
Come down with me,
come down
when you need me
but for now I want you
to be happy.
Sometimes life does
things to you
that will hurt you
and confuse you,
but when you're left behind
you're sure to find.
I am with you though I can't
come with you.
I am in you and I'm
always part of you,
and all you ever have to do
to bring me to you
Is come down with me,
come down
when you need me,
but for now I want you
to be happy.
So you must go back home,
that's where you belong.
You must go back home.
You must go back home,
that's where you belong.
You must go back home,
and I can't come along...
Talk about whine. If this and other comments below aren't misogyny, they are awfully close, and frankly they have no place on RP.
rabbi_phil wrote:
nope.....they really like that whine with their cheese...like most women i think it has something to do with their mother. one should use caution when pointing this out to them. really, it's better not to know. if you have to, it's ok to let 'em talk, just try not to listen.. just have them leave by 11...midnight at the latest. i was preparing to impart this "wisdom" to my teenage sons when the ex unceremoniously ejected me from the premises....think i hit a nerve...almost positive
Whats the matter there man....bruise your vagina? maybe a little pre-menstrual cramping took ur sense of humour away?
remember....if it's too loud you're too old. Now, back to your ladies home journal.
for what it's worth I've got a reasonably well adjusted, easy on the eyes grlfriend who thinks it's hilarious and quite a bit true. she adds that it's nothing compared to what they say 'bout guys...but it's all in good fun sooooooo...lighten the f***k up
Talk about whine. If this and other comments below aren't misogyny, they are awfully close, and frankly they have no place on RP.
rabbi_phil wrote:
nope.....they really like that whine with their cheese...like most women i think it has something to do with their mother. one should use caution when pointing this out to them. really, it's better not to know. if you have to, it's ok to let 'em talk, just try not to listen.. just have them leave by 11...midnight at the latest. i was preparing to impart this "wisdom" to my teenage sons when the ex unceremoniously ejected me from the premises....think i hit a nerve...almost positive
nope.....they really like that whine with their cheese...like most women i think it has something to do with their mother. one should use caution when pointing this out to them. really, it's better not to know. if you have to, it's ok to let 'em talk, just try not to listen.. just have them leave by 11...midnight at the latest. i was preparing to impart this "wisdom" to my teenage sons when the ex unceremoniously ejected me from the premises....think i hit a nerve...almost positive
Hard to wish for a man when all the rites of passage have been stopped and social expectations are not affirming
But That's common all over the world... Lotsa books being written, lots of topics at conventions... No answeres...Just noting so many in so few years... a new trend-?
She is a bit on the craszy side
Gotta say that I agree.
It sounds quite sympathetic to mens' situation, and how they're often trapped in masculine roles which separate them from women. "But for now I want you to be happy" is hardly man-hating. Don't forget that Sinead comes from the highly masculinised theocracy of Ireland (where I had some of my upbringing) where social and gender roles were rigidly prescribed until relatively recently. Whilst women get the rough end of the pineapple in Ireland, it's no party for the men either.
Come down with me ,
come down
when you need me ,
but for now I want you
to be happy .
Yeah, there's a lot of blame and anger there. Those women, always hatin'!
And Romeotuma likes it, so there.
Nice.
Yes, agree!
Nice.