Sufjan Stevens — The Mistress Witch from McClure (or, The Mind That Knows Itself)
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ploafmaster wrote:
ACK! Is there anybody that listens here that even knows what this word means and uses it properly?
I think from now on when I see that response in the horrible misuse to which it falls victim here, I'll respond in kind with incorrect word usage.
I think you're purple.
Yes, I know the meaning of the word, Do you? I stand by my remark.
ploafmaster wrote:
If that's the definition being used here, then look up "extravagant" and "ostentatious" - though you no doubt already know what they mean. Is his stuff really showy? And not just Sujan, but many artists/bands labeled as "pretentious" on this station - are they really flashy and showy?
I realize that's a subjective question and answer, but is Sufjan's music, and this song particularly, vain and prideful?
If you follow the language trail, I still feel like it's an abusive use of the word...
I now recognize your differentiation you are drawing a distinction between the artist and his art. To that end, I would opine that sufyawn is pretentious, but that his music is merely crap. IMHO.
vandal wrote:
sir, would you mind supplying some context with your objection?
I believe the reference is ". . . marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious."
if so, then I too believe this applies to sufyawn stevens.
If that's the definition being used here, then look up "extravagant" and "ostentatious" - though you no doubt already know what they mean. Is his stuff really showy? And not just Sujan, but many artists/bands labeled as "pretentious" on this station - are they really flashy and showy?
I realize that's a subjective question and answer, but is Sufjan's music, and this song particularly, vain and prideful?
If you follow the language trail, I still feel like it's an abusive use of the word...
ploafmaster wrote:
ACK! Is there anybody that listens here that even knows what this word means and uses it properly?
I think from now on when I see that response in the horrible misuse to which it falls victim here, I'll respond in kind with incorrect word usage.
I think you're purple.
sir, would you mind supplying some context with your objection?
I believe the reference is ". . . marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious."
if so, then I too believe this applies to sufyawn stevens.
ScottN wrote:
OK, he's pretentious.
ACK! Is there anybody that listens here that even knows what this word means and uses it properly?
I think from now on when I see that response in the horrible misuse to which it falls victim here, I'll respond in kind with incorrect word usage.
I think you're purple.
I don't get SS at all, but I found myself enjoying this song. Will give the LP a try.
ScottN wrote:
OK, he's pretentious.
pretentiousness does play a very minor role in his overall suckageness.
Another Radio Paradise turn on (thanks Bill, I owe you-oh wait, I'll just pledge more money-maybe one day I'll even get an ipod or some trip to a tropical paradise!).
Sufjan Stevens is original, his music is very complex and has a lot of depth, he plays a great deal of the instruments himself. He composes and writes all the lyrics, and he is an excellent story teller. John Wayne Gacy, Jr. is a great song, full of suspense, creepy.
ploafmaster wrote:
Geez man, quite a lot of people do, and he comes on no more frequently then LOADS of other stuff on here. He's certainly dropped completely off of the top airplay charts.
And I'm curious - how do you know he's self-indulgent? How is that something you can hear? I mean, really hear? Go ahead and don't like it - that's your right, and that's fine, but self-indulgent? You might as well say he's "pretentious."
OK, he's pretentious.
AussieCanuck wrote:
Sufjan Stevens = Sufjan Yawn
Seriously, this guy is boring, self-indulgent, depressing... why does he get so much airplay? I generally enjoy pretty much everything on RP. I play it while I work. But when this guy comes on (which seems to be on a regular basis lately) I switch over to something else. Shame.
Is there anyone out there who actually likes this guy?
I do, definitely .... Illinoise is one of the most interesting pieces of music to come out in recent times. Seriously talented and inventive. Don't really care if he's 'pretentious' (whatever that means).
Surfjan Stevens rock!
overdone underplay
penguinja wrote:
*raises hand slowly*
I like him. Not all of his songs, but most of Illinois.
...please don't hurt me
*blushes*
Me three.
I = ignore this man
AussieCanuck wrote:
Sufjan Stevens = Sufjan Yawn
Seriously, this guy is boring, self-indulgent, depressing... why does he get so much airplay? I generally enjoy pretty much everything on RP. I play it while I work. But when this guy comes on (which seems to be on a regular basis lately) I switch over to something else. Shame.
Is there anyone out there who actually likes this guy?
Geez man, quite a lot of people do, and he comes on no more frequently then LOADS of other stuff on here. He's certainly dropped completely off of the top airplay charts.
And I'm curious - how do you know he's self-indulgent? How is that something you can hear? I mean, really hear? Go ahead and don't like it - that's your right, and that's fine, but self-indulgent? You might as well say he's "pretentious."
AussieCanuck wrote:
Sufjan Stevens = Sufjan Yawn
Seriously, this guy is boring, self-indulgent, depressing... why does he get so much airplay? I generally enjoy pretty much everything on RP. I play it while I work. But when this guy comes on (which seems to be on a regular basis lately) I switch over to something else. Shame.
Is there anyone out there who actually likes this guy?
*raises hand slowly*
I like him. Not all of his songs, but most of Illinois.
...please don't hurt me
Sufjan Stevens = Sufjan Yawn
Seriously, this guy is boring, self-indulgent, depressing... why does he get so much airplay? I generally enjoy pretty much everything on RP. I play it while I work. But when this guy comes on (which seems to be on a regular basis lately) I switch over to something else. Shame.
Is there anyone out there who actually likes this guy?
JonnyNismo wrote:
I'm sorry, is there realy a following for this guy? I here so much Sufjan on RP. I'm not theonly one that relizes this guy sucks. Right?
Right Absolutely............
vandal wrote:
Obligatory trivia: A famous bearer of this name is Abu Sufyan ibn al-Harith, a figure from early Islamic history.
A contraction of the words "suffer" and "yawn."
Sufjan Stevens, stated that the name is of Armenian origin and means "comes with a sword."
Obligatory trivia: A famous bearer of this name is Abu Sufyan ibn al-Harith, a figure from early Islamic history.
I'm sorry, is there realy a following for this guy? I here so much Sufjan on RP. I'm not theonly one that relizes this guy sucks. Right?
Reminds me of Iron and Wine, with a thicker but rougher texture.
Llllllove Sufjan!
sure do play this mediocre song a lot...Sufyawn with another snoozer to take to SuckFest '06
Love it! Can't wait to see him here in Indy in September!
More drivel from Sufferyawn. Oh joy.
H-bomb wrote:
I just don't understand the raving about this guy.
I agree. He's not bad, but he's not all that great, either. Kind of bland and uninteresting, IMO.
BradAl wrote:
...although one could make the argument that with this album he's trying to cash off of illinoise's success...
Well, I'm sure his is to an extent, but man - nearly 76 minutes of b-sides from one album? Sounds more like he just had to get this music out there. And most of it's really solid, too. Although the two best tracks were "sorry'd" without review in the LRC...The Henney Buggy Band, and No Man's Land...
Maybe someone else will have more success?
Happygirl wrote:
'cuz we all wish we had a name as cool as "Sufjan!"
A contraction of the words "suffer" and "yawn."
This gets an 8 right out of the box, or the sleeve, or whatever that thing is called simply because it is Sufjan. Look out! Aaaaahhhh!
I love all the instrumentation, especially the horns. Go Sufjan!
Meh. I really like Illinois and I guess I can understand why they left this off the album. It seems decent but unremarkable.
H-bomb wrote:
I just don't understand the raving about this guy.
'cuz we all wish we had a name as cool as "Sufjan!"
Wow! Any ideas as to how they accomplished the low production sound quality for the banjo? Everything else seems clean but the banjo is so distant.
I just don't understand the raving about this guy.
how did this get cut from the album?? i think it would be up with the better half of the songs on the cd. although one could make the argument that with this album he's trying to cash off of illinoise's success...