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Loggins & Messina — Same Old Wine
Album: Sittin' In
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Total ratings: 1170









Released: 1972
Length: 8:14
Plays (last 30 days): 2
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Well we give them the election
That keeps filling our heads full of lies
Can we trust in new directions
When their promises are in disquise
Well someday the truth will catch up
I just hope it don't catch us all by surprise

They preach this thing, religion
But we show no faith at all
Follow suit on Sunday
But on Monday forget it all
If the times should find us needing him
Then my friend, Lord have mercy on our soul

It's the same old wine
In a brand new bottle
It's the same old wine
In a brand new bottle

Teach our children virture
Then send'em off to war
Then we ask ourselves the question
What and the hell are we fighting for?
If you suddenly find a reason
Well don't be afraid to open the door
Well don't be afraid

It's the same old wine
From a brand new bottle
It's the same old wine
From a brand new bottle
The same old wine
From a brand new wine
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nothing changes but the scenery!
Posted 1 week ago by misspixie    [ Reply ]
Ahhhh.

The Jim Messina guitar.

Ya hear in alot of different places.
Posted 1 week ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
Sounds a little like the Black Crowes.
Posted 1 week ago by dougnichols2021    [ Reply ]
 powerhuge wrote:

thanks Bill for playing this tonight; hope for us all that the brand new bottle wins out tonight.



Same, same tonight.... (and I'm guessing, for the same reason).
Posted 1 month ago by jgpineau    [ Reply ]
certainly among the best of the 70s!  Great jamming, on all instruments...
Posted 2 months ago by MilesW    [ Reply ]
Different year. Same stories. Same complaints.
Posted 3 months ago by 2ndgengeek1    [ Reply ]
Hold Please, 

Gotta turn on the big speakers and open up the rest of the windows.
Posted 4 months ago by ddbz    [ Reply ]
Gave this a 7 after first listen. On second listen and looking at the lyrics, bumped it up to a solid 8. Great Classic song. 
Posted 5 months ago by dcruzj    [ Reply ]
The comment would be "seems apropo" 
but I guess the term should be  "Glazed"
Posted 6 months ago by laserace    [ Reply ]
 KPC1 wrote:

I don't recall this Loggins & Messina.
Thanks RP..........digging this track



this is one of the many reasons why i love stations like this and given up on commercial music radio
Posted 6 months ago by jp33442    [ Reply ]
ya know...Jim Messina has quite a pedigree.  

Played in/founded Buffalo Spingfield and Poco.
Posted 6 months ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
 khardog145 wrote:

WOW!  Great band, great memories!   RP is the best radio on the planet.



Indeed to both comments!
Posted 7 months ago by bimmerfan739    [ Reply ]
Seems to be where Black Crowes got their influence.....
Posted 7 months ago by KPC1    [ Reply ]
wow

when was the last time you heard a piano-pedal steel-guitar jam in the middle of the song?

That's  why the 1970s were soooooo great for music.  
Posted 8 months ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
 samuiwerner wrote:



Don't see the correlation. 


Posted 9 months ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
 KPC1 wrote:

I don't recall this Loggins & Messina.
Thanks RP..........digging this track

Agreed! It rocks, almost better than a lot of "today's" music! 

Posted 9 months ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
 yofitofu wrote:

The piano playing on this song is tight.

Gotta throw some props to the harmonica playing too! 

Posted 9 months ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
 idiot_wind wrote:

Ha!

I just drank half bottle of a Merlot last night and it had that "sludge" at the bottom of the bottle.  Never quite sure if you consume it  (the French say yes)  or not (Americans say no).  

No matter what type of wine, most are made from grapes. That being said, any "sludge" is just the smaller bits of grapes that made it through the straining process.... Won't hurt you at all to consume it! I mean, c'mon... The tequila with the worm in it.... Don't recall anyone dieing from gulping that down! Perhaps some hallucinating but, surely, no deaths! LOL And, regardless of what is used to make the wine, grapes, dandelions, etc.... it's not only all natural but, it's fermented into alcohol. Which would be a "sterilizing" to whatever the sludge consists of! 



Posted 9 months ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
The piano playing on this song is tight.
Posted 9 months ago by yofitofu    [ Reply ]
 roadie wrote:

I love RP surprises.  Zero clue as to who this was. Absolute delight when I saw.

Yeah, I was just barely getting ready to go from elementary to jr high when this got released. So, wasn't really familiar with L & M back then. I too, was quite glad to see who it was! What an awesome tune! But then, being all grown, I've heard a few numbers from them. They've always harmonized quite well! Pretty sure that's part of what made them such a good duo! 

Posted 9 months ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
I don't recall this Loggins & Messina.
Thanks RP..........digging this track
Posted 9 months ago by KPC1    [ Reply ]
Ha!

I just drank half bottle of a Merlot last night and it had that "sludge" at the bottom of the bottle.  Never quite sure if you consume it  (the French say yes)  or not (Americans say no).  
Posted 1 year ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
 mrsquid wrote:

If you've got a couple of hours to relive that 'Sitting In Again' concert it's really good. https://youtu.be/DRGjiUklBB8
The mandolin player is Gabe Witcher - from Punch Brothers (which also has Chris Thile and sometimes Steve Martin)
Thnx for sharing! Very cool! 

Posted 1 year ago by Signwrtr61    [ Reply ]
I saw this band play live twice... only major band I ever saw perform twice. They were a great fusion of bluegrass/jazz/folk/rock. This wasn't my favourite album; I considered it to be a bit too mainstream (the hits). But thanks for playing this Bill! I'm now dusting off those L&G songs in my collection... making me smile!  .......and Jimmy's guitar.... oh Jimmy's guitar!!!!!!
Posted 1 year ago by patmvcr    [ Reply ]
ahhhh

manassas
Posted 1 year ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
this is smooth. totally new to me. love it!
Posted 1 year ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
Hearing this song makes me believe that early Loggins & Messina were a strong influence on the Black Crowes. 
Posted 2 years ago by Mugro    [ Reply ]
Wow.

Timely as ever, sadly. Same old wine indeed.
c.
Posted 2 years ago by cc_rider    [ Reply ]
Sometimes I forget how jammin' these guys were for a few years there... My buddy Johnny M and his older brother Danny used to play and sing their songs on guitar, and, sadly, RIP to both of them -- but the memories shall always jam!
Posted 2 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
 dboseman wrote:

Wow I am 65 and have never heard this! Thanks again RP.



I'm almost 70 and never heard it either. This is why discriminating music lovers listen to RP! Thank you, Bill & Crew.
Posted 2 years ago by ppeters914    [ Reply ]
Wow I am 65 and have never heard this! Thanks again RP.
Posted 2 years ago by dboseman    [ Reply ]
 coloradojohn wrote:

Damn, this just sizzles, now more than ever... Some of my friends' older siblings and/ or parents had works from this popular duo on their record shelves, and of course, "Your Mama Don't Dance (& Your Daddy Don't Rock & Roll)" as I seem to recall was on the 45 if you peered deep down into the machine, was on the radio and every jukebox through the mid-'70s, but this song didn't get much if any play then. The Viet Nam War was nearing The End, protests had lost steam and faded, and new distractions came along, such as The Arab Oil Crisis... --Wait, what --? Have we been drinking the same old wine, all this time?  ...Same as it ever was...  Same as it EVER was...



This song got plenty of play at my house. 
Posted 2 years ago by nomnol    [ Reply ]
 shhhh777 wrote:


This
1972.
The Trouble has been slowly
rolling our way
since then...


Wake up, folks
the Trouble is Here
Posted 2 years ago by shhhh777    [ Reply ]
 shhhh777 wrote:

How this is still relevant...

Nothing has changed.

Pay Attention, folks



This
1972.
The Trouble has been slowly
rolling our way
since then...
Posted 2 years ago by shhhh777    [ Reply ]
How this is still relevant...

Nothing has changed.

Pay Attention, folks
Posted 2 years ago by shhhh777    [ Reply ]
Damn, this just sizzles, now more than ever... Some of my friends' older siblings and/ or parents had works from this popular duo on their record shelves, and of course, "Your Mama Don't Dance (& Your Daddy Don't Rock & Roll)" as I seem to recall it said on the 45 if you peered deep down into the machine, was on the radio and every jukebox through the mid-'70s, but this song really didn't get much if any play then. The Viet Nam War was nearing The End, protests had lost steam and faded, and new distractions came along, such as The Arab Oil Crisis... --Wait, what --? Have we been drinking the same old wine, all this time?  ...Same as it ever was...  Same as it EVER was...
Posted 3 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
pretty sure i heard bill say "same old wine in a brand new box"
Posted 3 years ago by dischuckin    [ Reply ]
This is a great album to put on the turntable, sit back with some friends and just listen. I still have the album and this is what I consider their best work.
Posted 3 years ago by nomnol    [ Reply ]
Spent many smokey evenings listening to this album. Great music played and sung by great artists
Posted 3 years ago by sp_woods    [ Reply ]
thanks Bill for playing this tonight; hope for us all that the brand new bottle wins out tonight.
Posted 4 years ago by powerhuge    [ Reply ]
WOW!  Great band, great memories!   RP is the best radio on the planet.
Posted 6 years ago by khardog145    [ Reply ]
Not sure how I wasn't aware of this, but this album is now on my wantlist. Long live RP.
Posted 6 years ago by grogg    [ Reply ]
Solo(s):Telecaster>>>>compressor>>>Fender amp (thinkin' Deluxe Reverb)

any experts out there know?
Posted 6 years ago by Wonderloaf    [ Reply ]
I was too young then to understand.
 
Posted 6 years ago by KevB    [ Reply ]
I love RP surprises.  Zero clue as to who this was. Absolute delight when I saw.
Posted 6 years ago by roadie    [ Reply ]
Loved this when I first heard it and bought the LP. Still love this song!
Posted 6 years ago by nomnol    [ Reply ]
 below72 wrote:
What can I say - my favorite band of all time.  Saw them in 2005 - they had five young bucks backing them up - excellent musicians really tight - but L&M were always great live right from the start.
{#Clap}{#Clap}{#Clap} 
And agreed...Loggins was never as good without Jimmy - and visa a v.

 
If you've got a couple of hours to relive that 'Sitting In Again' concert it's really good. https://youtu.be/DRGjiUklBB8
The mandolin player is Gabe Witcher - from Punch Brothers (which also has Chris Thile and sometimes Steve Martin)
Posted 6 years ago by mrsquid    [ Reply ]
 jmsmy wrote:
We've never had wine this bad and L&M aren't talking about wine.
 
Right; this ain't the "same old wine", it's the worst wine ever.
Posted 6 years ago by On_The_Beach    [ Reply ]
I feel lucky to have seen them live..
Posted 6 years ago by parttime    [ Reply ]
We've never had wine this bad and L&M aren't talking about wine.
Posted 7 years ago by jmsmy    [ Reply ]
Cool! A lot like the Black Crowes, and enough like everyone who's ever rocked the Southern-Style Blues to make it memorable! JAM!
Posted 7 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
Wonderful song, like sunrise came unto my eyes drinking the melody Thanks you  for playing it (and the rest)
Posted 7 years ago by craig_bechtel    [ Reply ]
 rednred wrote:

Huh?! I had most of the albums of both bands, Elton John and Loggins & Messina, and have seen them each in concert multiple times from the 1970s through the 2000s. There is no resemblance whatsoever between them, other than that they play rock 'n' roll and have many instruments! Your comment makes it clear you don't know either band very well, especially Loggins & Messina. Do your homework, man!!

 
Agreed. There may be some sounds akin. But that was the sound of the day, and it was pretty badass.
I think some people just like saying stupid shit to prove they're stupid. Don't let them bother you too much. But feel free to ridicule mercilessly.
Posted 7 years ago by changodelaplaya    [ Reply ]
Yeah - but this time the Wine is Very Bad
Posted 7 years ago by jmsmy    [ Reply ]
Gotta say I always crank this up when it come on!

Not good for the work ethic... 
Posted 7 years ago by drictor    [ Reply ]
 hayduke2 wrote:


leaky sewer

 


Posted 7 years ago by samuiwerner    [ Reply ]

Awesome song ... thanks for playing this!


Posted 8 years ago by jamm    [ Reply ]
 thewiseking wrote:
Actually, a very, very poor mans Elton John impersonation

 
Huh?! I had most of the albums of both bands, Elton John and Loggins & Messina, and have seen them each in concert multiple times from the 1970s through the 2000s. There is no resemblance whatsoever between them, other than that they play rock 'n' roll and have many instruments! Your comment makes it clear you don't know either band very well, especially Loggins & Messina. Do your homework, man!!
Posted 8 years ago by rednred    [ Reply ]
Even more appropriate
Posted 8 years ago by Kaisersosay    [ Reply ]
Messina never gets much credit for being a pretty good  RnRer. he played with alot of great bands.  
Posted 8 years ago by idiot_wind    [ Reply ]
What can I say - my favorite band of all time.  Saw them in 2005 - they had five young bucks backing them up - excellent musicians really tight - but L&M were always great live right from the start.
{#Clap}{#Clap}{#Clap} 
And agreed...Loggins was never as good without Jimmy - and visa a v.
Posted 8 years ago by below72    [ Reply ]
Great jam and a thoughtful lyric that means something. I love it when the two come together.
Posted 8 years ago by SECA_Alan    [ Reply ]
They played in our high school gym 1971, Arcadia High, the start of it all.
Posted 8 years ago by CCinSB    [ Reply ]
Loved them!   Saw them at Belmont Race Track in 1980ish.  They hold up to time. 
Posted 8 years ago by ronniegirl    [ Reply ]
Kenny Loggins was never as good as he was with Jimmy Messina.
Posted 8 years ago by ScottD    [ Reply ]
Great words. 
Posted 8 years ago by CaptainConnector    [ Reply ]
Love the lyrics here!

What are you fighting for? 
Posted 8 years ago by fitmartin    [ Reply ]
Actually, a very, very poor mans Elton John impersonation
Posted 8 years ago by thewiseking    [ Reply ]
leaky sewer

PHOTO ILLUSTRATION BY ELIZABETH BROCKWAY/THE DAILY BEAST
 
 


Posted 8 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
So appropriate. 
Posted 8 years ago by Kaisersosay    [ Reply ]
Ah, the good old days!
Posted 8 years ago by GeorgeMWoods    [ Reply ]
My college roommate had this album—love it—haven't heard it in forever
Posted 8 years ago by LaurieinTucson    [ Reply ]
yup, got that right L & M     where's my glass now...     (Hilary gets my vote btw : )
Posted 8 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
This has aged well, me thinks.  Some of their early stuff is really quite good.
Posted 8 years ago by drictor    [ Reply ]
These two cats were quite Lame. Here they are doing a fairly decent Elton John impersonation. This was better than their later stuff. 

For "Your Mama Don't Dance and Your Daddy Don't Rock and Roll" they must never be forgiven
Posted 8 years ago by thewiseking    [ Reply ]
Damn, thought this was some Chris Robinson that I hadn't heard.
Posted 8 years ago by Sunman    [ Reply ]
Never really got into them, back in the day, but really liked the sound of this track so will check them out.  Ta much, Bill.
Posted 9 years ago by jimmygee848    [ Reply ]
OMG I wish they would get back together
Posted 9 years ago by jktravl    [ Reply ]
Bill's on the LAM!
Posted 9 years ago by TerryS    [ Reply ]
Their road band was incredible.
Posted 9 years ago by WonderLizard    [ Reply ]
Cheers!
Posted 9 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]