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Thought it was a good solution
Hanging with the raisin girls
She's gone to the other side
Giving us the ol' heave ho
Things are getting kind of gross
And I go at sleepy time
This is not really
This, this, this is not really happening
You bet your life it is
You bet your life it is
Honey, you bet your life
It's a peel out the watchword
Just peel out the watchword
She knows what's going on
Seems we got a cheaper feel now
All the sweeteaze are gone
Gone to the other side
With my encyclopaedia
They must have paid her a nice price
She's putting on her string bean love
This is not really
This, this, this is not really happening
You bet your life it is
You bet your life it is
Honey, you bet your life
It's a peel out the watchword
Just peel out the watchword
Never was a cornflake girl
Thought that was a good solution
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, girl
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, girl
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, oh yeah
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, where'd you put the keys, girl
And the man with the golden gun
Thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much, yeah
And the man with the golden gun
Thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much, yeah
And the man with the golden gun
Thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much, yeah
And the man with the golden gun
Thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much, yeah, yeah
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, girl
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, girl, oh this time
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, oh yeah
Rabbit, where'd you put the keys, girl
Seriously though, Rabbit, where the #@$% are the keys?
i hope she found the keys.
Saw her paired with Alanis Morisette back in 1999. Got the T Shirt somewhere. She opened for Alanis. IIRC they swapped openings as the tour rolled on. Both were great, although Alanis was better, for me anyway. Hard to imagine Alanis going first on that billing cuz her show really rocked, and Tori was subdued in comparison.
Seriously though, Rabbit, where the #@$% are the keys?
I know, right? If you haven't seen her live, I recommend it.
Saw her live a long time ago. She made a joke at the expense of my hometown (Little Rock) that put me off a bit, but apart from that it was a kickass show!
huh...
And the man with the golden keyboard
Thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much
Guys, get with it, all I know is Tori Amos inspires the inner feelings of many women, her strongest followers, and listening to several of her albums at the behest of a young lovely, I've grown to appreciate Tori as a decent pianist and vocalist. Sensuality is her strength. Personally I've learned to appreciate her for that, alone. Trust me, it's worth it. Learn from her, you will be blessed.
"decent"... is this supposed to pass as some kind of back-handed praise? Pat yourself on the back, I guess?
Yes, I didn't think you actually thought "incapable"; I was pointing out that it was the wording which suggested that.
Anyhow, neat hobby, thanks for the additional information.
Shit. I came here to say that this is one of my favorite (of many) songs by her, but now I see there's a much bigger issue here.
Thank you for revealing this to me, pointing out that I've been fooling myself -- living a lie. I never knew it, but now that you say it, everything makes sense.
Now I have to let my wife know that I'm gay, and I never knew it until now. That time I went to see Tori play in Chicago should have been the tipoff, but I've been blindly aroused by the female form for all these years, when I should have rejected it based upon my love of artists like Tori Amos, Poe, Skye (from Morcheeba), Brittany (from Alabama Shakes), Aretha Franklin, Annie Lenox, Edie Brickell, Fiona Apple, Heart, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Patty Griffin, Shivaree, and.... well, I won't go on as I could be here all day.
Excuse me while I go ask my gay friends which man-hunks I should start being aroused by now.
Thanks a lot for this. I was thinking along those lines too :)
I'm also with you on the "blindly aroused by the female form".
Erm... I know I shouldn't just pick out random comments from strangers to comment on (my mom always said so), but your comment is definitely incorrect
Sure, they were active in the same time period, but remember the Stones/Beatles debate. Music isn't made in a vacuüm on the one hand, but similar 'inventions' are being done independent all the time, in music as well.
It seems quite clear to my ears that their musical styles are quite different, also varying in different directions across time and genre.
Just the fact that two female artists share a love for artful display (theatrics or eccentricity if you will) of their talents and share a measure of success doesn't mean they can't co-exist independently from one another.
It IS possible to love both, dislike both or just like one and not the other for reasons other than 2 females.
Based on the exchange above it appears as if you are trying to suggest that heterosexual men are biologically incapable of enjoying the singing of "most female (recording) artists".
Never did I use the word incapable, nor would I. I've known plenty of heterosexual men who love female musicians. But there is an inherent biological aversion to shrill voices, and I wouldn't be surprised if some people are more sensitive to it than others (especially those with a mother who went into the upper register when stressed/angry). I don't think culture alone can explain why men are more averse to female artists than women are to males, and I think it's worth considering that there are biological forces at work.
One of my hobbies is studying neuroception as it relates to trauma/the nervous system, attachment theory, developmental trauma, etc. Prosody of voice is something the nervous system reads under our conscious awareness. Here's a lite version of the science:
Tone of voice, or prosody, is a huge part of how your Attachment system works. Tone of voice can trigger the amygdala immediately — it’s designed to be an instant danger signal. What happens in women’s voices when they get activated or they see danger? They get shrill. That’s like a siren call back to tribal days, to get some people there to help protect you and the kids.
Sometimes, when we think we are having a calm conversation with someone, our voice goes up a bit, but we are not aware of it. And you are sending a very strong threat signal to your partner. So some of this we have to learn: how to use our tone of voice, and the prosody of our voice, to regulate. And shrillness will take you or your partner, your friends, or your kids immediately to the center of the amygdala. Boom! The alarm system is going up, and then they’re in defense, and they are not in social engagement. So whatever you are trying to work out, it’s going to get much harder.
Now for men, when they go into their own activation or threat response, what do their voices do? They tend to get louder and booming. Maybe, also, they are not shrill, they are not going up, but they have this kind of strong thing. And again, many times men are not aware that their voice is changing. Something is happening but you are not always aware of it, so it’s really important to help keep the relationship safe and keep it in its resiliency zone, the problem-solve, and to connect, to notice how you are using your voice.
Flat affect, or not having modulation in your voice, will also be problematic in social engagement. The modulation of the voice is also regulating. And you know how you talk to animals and babies?
The way we talk to babies is hardwired. Nobody teaches you that. That’s part of the secure attachment system working. When you start thinking, “Hello sweetheart,” you just feel what happens to your heart. It gets all melty. It’s funny, isn’t it? And it’s all voice. It’s just tone of voice. There is a lot to this prosody thing.
- https://dianepooleheller.com/t...
There's endless stuff to explore on this topic - studies on it have only just begun. Read about polyvagal theory and how we perceive threat/safety for a sense of what I'm pointing to.
We are all gay here, dancing butt-naked in the church of multi-verses, drinkin electric Kool-Aid and howlin at street lights
Shocked to learn this myself.
Skye Edwards is my favorite voice, and Floor Jansen is imho the best singer alive.
but I'm not gay! I just like girlie things ... like girls ;D
Shit. I came here to say that this is one of my favorite (of many) songs by her, but now I see there's a much bigger issue here.
Thank you for revealing this to me, pointing out that I've been fooling myself -- living a lie. I never knew it, but now that you say it, everything makes sense.
Now I have to let my wife know that I'm gay, and I never knew it until now. That time I went to see Tori play in Chicago should have been the tipoff, but I've been blindly aroused by the female form for all these years, when I should have rejected it based upon my love of artists like Tori Amos, Poe, Skye (from Morcheeba), Brittany (from Alabama Shakes), Aretha Franklin, Annie Lenox, Edie Brickell, Fiona Apple, Heart, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Patty Griffin, Shivaree, and.... well, I won't go on as I could be here all day.
Excuse me while I go ask my gay friends which man-hunks I should start being aroused by now.
Shocked to learn this myself.
Skye Edwards is my favorite voice, and Floor Jansen is imho the best singer alive.
mzuther wrote:
I read about Tori Amos in a magazine just when "Under The Pink" came out. Intrigued, I listened to the album, bought it and immediately went to the ticket shop next door. There were only two tickets left for her upcoming concert, so I bought one, too.
On the day of the concert, I walked past hordes of people that followed me right to the entrance and offered me hundreds of Deutschmarks. This was a lot of money for me, but to this day I'm happy that I resisted their offers.
Listening to "Cornflake Girl" takes me back to this concert, the second I ever visited and one still of the best.
I read about Tori Amos in a magazine just when "Under The Pink" came out. Intrigued, I listened to the album, bought it and immediately went to the ticket shop next door. There were only two tickets left for her upcoming concert, so I bought one, too.
On the day of the concert, I walked past hordes of people that followed me right to the entrance and offered me hundreds of Deutschmarks. This was a lot of money for me, but to this day I'm happy that I resisted their offers.
Listening to "Cornflake Girl" takes me back to this concert, the second I ever visited and one still of the best.
I rarely give a 10 but never rate down a track I dislike (scroll on...). Solid 8 from me
Musically, it's amazing. It's some of the greatest piano work ever laid down, IMO.
amyvoscas wrote:
RabbitEars wrote:
And I would agree.
Shit. I came here to say that this is one of my favorite (of many) songs by her, but now I see there's a much bigger issue here.
Thank you for revealing this to me, pointing out that I've been fooling myself -- living a lie. I never knew it, but now that you say it, everything makes sense.
Now I have to let my wife know that I'm gay, and I never knew it until now. That time I went to see Tori play in Chicago should have been the tipoff, but I've been blindly aroused by the female form for all these years, when I should have rejected it based upon my love of artists like Tori Amos, Poe, Skye (from Morcheeba), Brittany (from Alabama Shakes), Aretha Franklin, Annie Lenox, Edie Brickell, Fiona Apple, Heart, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Patty Griffin, Shivaree, and.... well, I won't go on as I could be here all day.
Excuse me while I go ask my gay friends which man-hunks I should start being aroused by now.
And I would agree.
Nah, I'd say that she's an acquired taste that's worth acquiring.
The first time I heard her, I didn't like her music. But a hetrosexual man whose opinion I respect really liked her and encouraged me to listen to some of her other work. Listening to more, one starts to pick up where she's at and now I quite enjoy listening to her and have bought a few of her albums.
RabbitEars wrote:
And I would agree.
And I would agree.
Based on the exchange above it appears as if you are trying to suggest that heterosexual men are biologically incapable of enjoying the singing of "most female (recording) artists".
And I would agree.
I think it's more related to not wanting to hear what women have to say. My theory is probably as scientifically sound as yours.
Agreed! Fearless and a wellspring of unique talent.
And I would agree.
And I would agree.
I'm not a big fan of much of her work, but her piano skills are far beyond "decent".
Why can't we just appreciate the mastery of an artist instead of creating some other contrivance?
I know, right? If you haven't seen her live, I recommend it.
Are you bleeding or just drunk? I can't figure you out. You seem to be ...conflicted.
As far as Tori - she's clearly way out of your league, cosmo.
now... back to the crack pipe.
Kokoloco53 wrote:
uh yea.. uh totally. i only listen to uh manly stuff
Put on a John Lee Hooker record instead.
Or just run your fingernails up and down a chalkboard. Same thing....
George Carlin on the relationship between white people and the blues:
https://youtu.be/Dcr8dm9Prkk
Sometimes I feel like a cheesecake guy.
That said, this song rocks!
The haters just don't like or get Tori Amos.
yes, I and I guess that you are one of those that are blessed enough to see how beautiful the new clothes of the emperor actually are too.
Put on a John Lee Hooker record instead.
The haters just don't like or get Tori Amos.
Your probably right... But your one problem with that is Elton is not as annoying
From wikky:
In the song two factions of women are referred to: the "raisin girls" are "multicultural" and open-minded, while the "cornflake girls" of the title are "narrowminded and full of prejudice"
uhm, ok, if she says so.
I think Tori nees some prozac.
Neither.
Great song.
+1 to that scrubbrush! Can't hear this without thinking of the original HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY from the BBC.
Neither.
Great song.
The haters just don't like or get Tori Amos.
But I like this song.
I'm with you. Haven't heard this in at least ten years. Forgot how much I liked it.
I have not noticed that...you can always buy used from the marketplace..or mp3...good to know u support the artist cuz I agree this is important
just wonderin'...
I hear ya, MiracleDrug. I took me a long time to learn to hear Tori as more than a Kate Bush soundalike. But I'm glad I eventually did.
Oh, and I'm gonna go ahead and guess Kate feels the same way, since she strikes me as an open-hearted kind of person that way.
just wonderin'...
I understand kate is taking piano lessons from Tori.
MiracleDrug wrote:
just wonderin'...
just wonderin'...
Bill is da bomb for playing Tori!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds a lot like Kate Bush!
i don't know what you're thinking but i'm thinking psychotic
Sounds a lot like Kate Bush!
Absolutely: https://www.yessaid.com/bosendorfer.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQ9oM5GtBE
"I read the Alice Walker book, Possessing the Secret of Joy, and there's umm, in that book, the mothers take the daughters to the butchers to have their, let's say their genitalia removed. And even though it's a patriarchal culture that she's talking about, and that this custom was put into practice a long, long time ago by the patriarchy, it's the mothers that take their daughters. And, what I was singing about was, it's funny how from generation to generation women really betray each other in the ladies' room. There is a whole secret society that happens, and a lot of times a mother will say 'I'm doing this for your good' whether it was binding the feet in the Eastern cultures or whether it's marrying your daughter to this gangrene, smelly-breathed, old, decrepit, rotting scumbag that's 80 years old with dough. 'You know, this is really the best for you,' when the truth is, it's the best for everybody else. And, that's an extreme of women's relationships brought to just like, your girlfriend that you're hanging out with, but betrayal is betrayal, and I was thrown in to many situations as I was reading that book where girls, my girls, we were just dissin' each other. The things that we were doing, umm, it's like I would have never imagined that we could be so unsupportive of each other, and it was just happening while I was reading this book, and Cornflake Girl is the betrayal really of girls."
— Tori; 99X Radio Interview, 08/05/94
"History has recorded some pretty nasty things that have happened to people I think we remember I think it's in our cells and I think it can still hurt sometimes."
— Tori; Under The Pink Songbook
Yeah...
I'm gonna go ahead and say this tangent was a way of trying NOT to look like a sellout. Hiding behind some feminist ideal doesn't help much — it's still pretty easy to pull the blanket off that bullsh*t. She shouldn't be so hard on herself. You gotta whore yourself to someone sometime to get to where you wanna go. That's life. It's easier to slide on bullshit than it is gravel.
That said... great song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQ9oM5GtBE
"I read the Alice Walker book, Possessing the Secret of Joy, and there's umm, in that book, the mothers take the daughters to the butchers to have their, let's say their genitalia removed. And even though it's a patriarchal culture that she's talking about, and that this custom was put into practice a long, long time ago by the patriarchy, it's the mothers that take their daughters. And, what I was singing about was, it's funny how from generation to generation women really betray each other in the ladies' room. There is a whole secret society that happens, and a lot of times a mother will say 'I'm doing this for your good' whether it was binding the feet in the Eastern cultures or whether it's marrying your daughter to this gangrene, smelly-breathed, old, decrepit, rotting scumbag that's 80 years old with dough. 'You know, this is really the best for you,' when the truth is, it's the best for everybody else. And, that's an extreme of women's relationships brought to just like, your girlfriend that you're hanging out with, but betrayal is betrayal, and I was thrown in to many situations as I was reading that book where girls, my girls, we were just dissin' each other. The things that we were doing, umm, it's like I would have never imagined that we could be so unsupportive of each other, and it was just happening while I was reading this book, and Cornflake Girl is the betrayal really of girls."
— Tori; 99X Radio Interview, 08/05/94
"History has recorded some pretty nasty things that have happened to people I think we remember I think it's in our cells and I think it can still hurt sometimes."
— Tori; Under The Pink Songbook
Here's the answer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornflake_Girl
Last time I saw her live, I was lucky enough to watch the show from the wings, and toured the stage before the gates opened. They said 'don't touch anything'. I didn't, but I did make about 4 laps of the piano, trying to get my head around the size and beauty of it.
She told so and did you ever see her playing anything else?
It must be. Hear the sound.
She told so and did you ever see her playing anything else?
Oscar Peterson swore by them.
MUTE
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(What IS a 'white schworl' anyway?)
i'm not sure. and i wish someone would tell her where they put the cheese, girl.