Medeski Martin & Wood — Ice
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Such a great band and the live shows are amazing!
Solanus wrote:
That's a great sentiment, but it is obviously wrong. If you have no concept of what you are seeing, hearing, or otherwise experiencing (whether you are incapable (blind, deaf, etc.) or simply lacking knowledge), you may not "see" the beauty that others do and therefore that beauty does not exist for you, which meets the definition of subjective. You could be biased against songs with record scratches or thumping bass or a pronounced twang, and you'd never be blown away by the skillful production, songwriting, and performances. You could have missed out on exposure to classical music as a child and find the sound jarring.
I have a friend who, when he reads a book, cannot visualize the story. It feels like he is reading a text book, a recitation of facts. (When he listens via Audible or whatever, it works.) I might see a pattern in a rock formation that is awe-inspiring, but I would never think someone is wrong for not seeing it as well. Someone might have an infatuation with redheads or Asian women or whatever, and someone else thinks the opposite.
Just because there is a consensus that something is beautiful does not make it fact. It just means a lot of people believe that opinion.
Very well stated!
That's a great sentiment, but it is obviously wrong. If you have no concept of what you are seeing, hearing, or otherwise experiencing (whether you are incapable (blind, deaf, etc.) or simply lacking knowledge), you may not "see" the beauty that others do and therefore that beauty does not exist for you, which meets the definition of subjective. You could be biased against songs with record scratches or thumping bass or a pronounced twang, and you'd never be blown away by the skillful production, songwriting, and performances. You could have missed out on exposure to classical music as a child and find the sound jarring.
I have a friend who, when he reads a book, cannot visualize the story. It feels like he is reading a text book, a recitation of facts. (When he listens via Audible or whatever, it works.) I might see a pattern in a rock formation that is awe-inspiring, but I would never think someone is wrong for not seeing it as well. Someone might have an infatuation with redheads or Asian women or whatever, and someone else thinks the opposite.
Just because there is a consensus that something is beautiful does not make it fact. It just means a lot of people believe that opinion.
Very well stated!
stevetheshoe wrote:
I really like BOTH iterations! Thanx RP!
My wife really likes MMW, but I prefer their work with John Scofield.
I really like BOTH iterations! Thanx RP!
EXCELLENT!! RP introduced me to them, now I like a LOT of their tunes. That is why we come here. Thanx RP!
ice 9??
stegokitty wrote:
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
That's a great sentiment, but it is obviously wrong. If you have no concept of what you are seeing, hearing, or otherwise experiencing (whether you are incapable (blind, deaf, etc.) or simply lacking knowledge), you may not "see" the beauty that others do and therefore that beauty does not exist for you, which meets the definition of subjective. You could be biased against songs with record scratches or thumping bass or a pronounced twang, and you'd never be blown away by the skillful production, songwriting, and performances. You could have missed out on exposure to classical music as a child and find the sound jarring.
I have a friend who, when he reads a book, cannot visualize the story. It feels like he is reading a text book, a recitation of facts. (When he listens via Audible or whatever, it works.) I might see a pattern in a rock formation that is awe-inspiring, but I would never think someone is wrong for not seeing it as well. Someone might have an infatuation with redheads or Asian women or whatever, and someone else thinks the opposite.
Just because there is a consensus that something is beautiful does not make it fact. It just means a lot of people believe that opinion.
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
That's a great sentiment, but it is obviously wrong. If you have no concept of what you are seeing, hearing, or otherwise experiencing (whether you are incapable (blind, deaf, etc.) or simply lacking knowledge), you may not "see" the beauty that others do and therefore that beauty does not exist for you, which meets the definition of subjective. You could be biased against songs with record scratches or thumping bass or a pronounced twang, and you'd never be blown away by the skillful production, songwriting, and performances. You could have missed out on exposure to classical music as a child and find the sound jarring.
I have a friend who, when he reads a book, cannot visualize the story. It feels like he is reading a text book, a recitation of facts. (When he listens via Audible or whatever, it works.) I might see a pattern in a rock formation that is awe-inspiring, but I would never think someone is wrong for not seeing it as well. Someone might have an infatuation with redheads or Asian women or whatever, and someone else thinks the opposite.
Just because there is a consensus that something is beautiful does not make it fact. It just means a lot of people believe that opinion.
My wife really likes MMW, but I prefer their work with John Scofield.
The nuances and territory verged on here in this chill number are among the trippiest out there, and this band is something to see live!
stegokitty wrote:
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
Really? So how do you define beauty (besides "it just is")?
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
Really? So how do you define beauty (besides "it just is")?
very different from most MMW I have heard as there is no Hammond B3, it's still funky, but ambient too...
great groove.......
This is new to me and not a big fan of Jazz but this seems to hit the spot. Thanks RP for turning me on to something new.
Love to read the comments on this page
Rolling from the Stones to Husserl, only in radioparadise
Rolling from the Stones to Husserl, only in radioparadise
stegokitty wrote:
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
Not according to Edmund Husserl, but I was never really into phenomenology anyhow. By which metric do you measure whether something is "better" or "beautiful"? Anyhow, those two words are far from synonymous.
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
Not according to Edmund Husserl, but I was never really into phenomenology anyhow. By which metric do you measure whether something is "better" or "beautiful"? Anyhow, those two words are far from synonymous.
Nice to hear MM&W here! 
Carlo9151 wrote:
Touché.
....Papa was a rolling stone
Touché.
....Papa was a rolling stone
Wow!!! 
11!!!!!
11!!!!! ri_shelton wrote:
mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive. There, I just broke three more rocks.
coolpeople_rule wrote:
All music is totally subjective...
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
All music is totally subjective...
Nope. Some things are objectively better than others.
Beauty is not merely in the eye (nor ear) of the beholder.
Some things are beautiful whether or not a person (nor a group of persons) recognize it as such.
Seeing them do the cuts of this record live in Tokyo, I have to say, they are EPIC, and I advise seeing them do their magic up close...
Hippostar wrote:
Must agree. This drummer seriously knows exactly one lick. I've heard high school jazz groups with more creativity and expression than these guys have ever shown.
Please try not to evaluate MMW on the basis of this track. In general RP never plays their best stuff... That being said they are definitely a live act. They play in a wide range of styles and are one of the most interesting, progressive and creative bands I've ever seen. (and I'm 54 and seen lots of great acts...!) They can also be indulgent at times and I understand why people dont like it when they go off into space jams.
They are not everyone's cup of tea for sure, but John Medeski and Billy Martin are excellent musicians. John Medeski can wail on the Hammond B3 as well as anyone. He can play bop with dexterity and soulfulness - he's a true virtuoso...
Must agree. This drummer seriously knows exactly one lick. I've heard high school jazz groups with more creativity and expression than these guys have ever shown.
Please try not to evaluate MMW on the basis of this track. In general RP never plays their best stuff... That being said they are definitely a live act. They play in a wide range of styles and are one of the most interesting, progressive and creative bands I've ever seen. (and I'm 54 and seen lots of great acts...!) They can also be indulgent at times and I understand why people dont like it when they go off into space jams.
They are not everyone's cup of tea for sure, but John Medeski and Billy Martin are excellent musicians. John Medeski can wail on the Hammond B3 as well as anyone. He can play bop with dexterity and soulfulness - he's a true virtuoso...
tulfan wrote:
Maybe it's in a different range for you...not good or bad, just sayin' ;)
All music is totally subjective... music comments in general here are based upon our own, unknown bias opinions based upon our very.. personal subjective life experiences. imho... yadda, yadda...and so on and so forth & so on.
Breathe..
I am not sure why but I always feel completely unsatisfied listening to their music.Several sources over the years have had an infatuation with their work and I never got...
Maybe it's in a different range for you...not good or bad, just sayin' ;)
All music is totally subjective... music comments in general here are based upon our own, unknown bias opinions based upon our very.. personal subjective life experiences. imho... yadda, yadda...and so on and so forth & so on.
Breathe..
I am not sure why but I always feel completely unsatisfied listening to their music.Several sources over the years have had an infatuation with their work and I never got...
ri_shelton wrote:
Must agree. This drummer seriously knows exactly one lick. I've heard high school jazz groups with more creativity and expression than these guys have ever shown.
mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive. There, I just broke three more rocks.
Must agree. This drummer seriously knows exactly one lick. I've heard high school jazz groups with more creativity and expression than these guys have ever shown.
Nice to get some jazz in the mix too! Thanks.
Wow !
I didn't listened to this music since many years...
Outstanding !
Greetings from France
I didn't listened to this music since many years...
Outstanding !
Greetings from France
this is completely new to me and i like it a lot! way to go RP. great tunes this am. glad i was afk for the peter gabriel. lol
My older son bought me this for Christmas last year, because he knows I heard it on Radio Paradise. He's a good son, and this is a kick-ass CD.
Handy thing to have around, you know, just in case.
Handy thing to have around, you know, just in case.
We made it!
I'm in with the 'In Crowd' - either you get this or you don't. No biggie.
ri_shelton wrote:
wrong.
mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive. There, I just broke three more rocks.
wrong.
Ahhhh no lyrics!
This after Al Stewart's Roads to Moscow is just plain SLY FUN, on musical AND literary planes... And what a chill jam this number is. To have seen them do it in front of me in Tokyo a couple years ago makes it even more visceral and forever real. ALL PRAISE TO RP!
Can't think of any other place to hear Al Sterwart followed by a song like this. Thanks Bill.
A little Ramsey Lewis Trio for y'all
...I'm in with the in crowd.
...I'm in with the in crowd.
socalhol wrote:
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
Negroni, and make it a dry one, please. That would be the second one tonight.
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
Negroni, and make it a dry one, please. That would be the second one tonight.
mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive, mechanical and repetitive. There, I just broke three more rocks.
MrGreg wrote:
I think this tune's meant to be "repetitive" - it's often an attribute of this genre: a groove or a mood, not a symphony. I'm sure the drummer knows other licks, but I have not heard "almost every one of their songs" from their 15-or-so albums.
Mechanical and repetitive...
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
I think this tune's meant to be "repetitive" - it's often an attribute of this genre: a groove or a mood, not a symphony. I'm sure the drummer knows other licks, but I have not heard "almost every one of their songs" from their 15-or-so albums.
byebyedelray wrote:
I guess people have just MOVED ON!!!!
Hard to believe that this gets the same avg rating as Skynrd. Dog, what is up?
I guess people have just MOVED ON!!!!
socalhol wrote:
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
No - it HAS to be a gin and tonic - with lime!
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
No - it HAS to be a gin and tonic - with lime!
sub-arctic wrote:
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place. 
totally........... I was just thinking a vodka martini would be nice about now!
All foreplay and then....?
No doubt fine musicianship, but it's a long, long intro for something that never happens...
No doubt fine musicianship, but it's a long, long intro for something that never happens...
Hard to believe that this gets the same avg rating as Skynrd. Dog, what is up?
Great song
I liked this CD enough to buy it when it first came out. I'm sorry I did. Now after a few listens its boring, uninspiring, and mechanical.
peter_james_bond wrote:
The song must be called ice because it's so coool.
Jelani wrote:
No, because it's waiting to be put on it.
However, I have to agree with peter_james_bond!
The song must be called ice because it's so coool.
Jelani wrote:
No, because it's waiting to be put on it.
However, I have to agree with peter_james_bond! peter_james_bond wrote:
No, because it's waiting to be put on it.
The song must be called ice because it's so coool.
No, because it's waiting to be put on it.
And his time keeping sucks to boot.
MrGreg wrote:
NO, he doesn't.
Mechanical and repetitive...
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
NO, he doesn't.
Mechanical and repetitive...
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
Does the drummer know anything other than this one lick he uses for almost every one of their songs?
2nd mmw tune in 3 or 4 hours? they're enjoyable and all, but that's a bit much
keller1 wrote:
Yeah ... how about some traffic ... what was that senasational double live album they had in the 70/s .. around Low Spark era .. Saw Humble Pie in 73 at Clacton .. Beach Boys followed and they BOMBED !!!
Reminds me of Traffic ...
Either that, or the first couple of minutes of Strange Days by Humble Pie.
Either that, or the first couple of minutes of Strange Days by Humble Pie.
Yeah ... how about some traffic ... what was that senasational double live album they had in the 70/s .. around Low Spark era .. Saw Humble Pie in 73 at Clacton .. Beach Boys followed and they BOMBED !!!
The song must be called ice because it's so coool.
Very cool, snazzy, jazzy. Feels almost like I'm walking through the Pottery Barn at the mall, or maybe grabbing some Panera Bread, smuggling in the Gin of course.
Excellent flow with Beck - The Information, if I might say. Thanks Bill.
Way too early in the day for a gin and tonic - but I can TASTE it! The setting should be a roof terrace in house on a Greek island, on a day bed with white floaty curtains and lots of cushions........
Sadly it is raining heavily and I am in an attic room in Brighton - working on a SATURDAY!!!!
Sadly it is raining heavily and I am in an attic room in Brighton - working on a SATURDAY!!!!
Another awesome band I first heard on Radio Paradise. Thanks again, Bill!
sub-arctic wrote:
I saw them last weekend in Jackson Hole and had a large G&T going at the time. 
Was good. Both were. Good.
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
I saw them last weekend in Jackson Hole and had a large G&T going at the time. Was good. Both were. Good. sub-arctic wrote:
I'm with you! 8 => 9
Everyone needs something to believe in: I believe I'll have another drink.
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
I'm with you! 8 => 9
Everyone needs something to believe in: I believe I'll have another drink.
sub-arctic wrote:
make mine a vodka and soda though, please 
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
make mine a vodka and soda though, please
what's that about these medeski, martin & wood guys ? did they buy RP ? that's close to exclusive airplay.
sub-arctic wrote:
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
Yeah, definitely cool and laid-back. But also it somehow just doodles along on the surface and never goes deeper.
A good solid 7.
Reminds me of Traffic ...
Either that, or the first couple of minutes of Strange Days by Humble Pie.
sub-arctic wrote:
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
Agreed.
This is cool.... made me look.
Everything I've heard from this album is just so cool and laid-back. It makes me want to have a gin & tonic in some cool and laid-back place.
ilibjorn wrote:
low spark.....turned me on to jazz
Not even in the same millenium,this for me a solid #1.
low spark.....turned me on to jazz
passsion8 wrote:
I'm seeing them acoustic next month! Yippee....
I'm seeing 'em tomorrow -- with John Scofield!
Alright, I give in - I've heard too many good tunes from this album to not buy it - off to Amazon!
driver8 wrote:
It's the ninth track on the the CD....Ice-9.
(RIP Kurt)
Coincidence? I think not. Good find!
It's the ninth track on the the CD....Ice-9.
(RIP Kurt)
I'm seeing them acoustic next month! Yippee....
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
Doing lots of situps...
WonderLizard wrote:
Both the drumming and keyboard work are reminiscent of, tho' hardly on a par with to be honest, Miles Davis's Bitches Brew/In a Silent Way era output in the late '60s and early '70s
Yeah, hey, you're right! True: nothing could ever be 'on par with' the inimitable Bitches Brew.
Still...sounds good!
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
"Cutting a long stalk of celery" eh? Sounds like a euphemism for ... something.
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
Skiing in the Chugagh Mts. at night with the aurora cranking overhead.
Both the drumming and keyboard work are reminiscent of, tho' hardly on a par with to be honest, Miles Davis's Bitches Brew/In a Silent Way era output in the late '60s and early '70s, particularly Tony Williams and Joe Zawinul. The whole album seems to be a '70s flashback of sorts, touching unpredictably on funk, soul, and jazz. Interesting for what it is.
NICE!!!!
mojoman wrote:
If you don't own this album, run--don't walk--to your nearest purveyor of musical recordings and buy it!
or, perhaps just get some vintage Ramsey Lewis, "Return to Forever" or Weather Report. Or even better - get 'em all.
Really liking this tune, very nice drumming.
If you don't own this album, run--don't walk--to your nearest purveyor of musical recordings and buy it!
For anyone who likes this one, I would highly recommend the whole album. Mucho Coolio it is.
Why are these guys not on iTunes... 
fearlessfreep wrote:
when listening to this song, i like lounging in my favorite chair, watching the cheez-it crumbs accumulate in my greasy chest hair ... but chopping celery - that works, also.
Wow, what an amazing image! ;)
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
when listening to this song, i like lounging in my favorite chair, watching the cheez-it crumbs accumulate in my greasy chest hair ... but chopping celery - that works, also.
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
Skateboarding high through a city you've never been to, at night. Haven't done it with this song, but this is exactly what I'd be lookng for.
Carly wrote:
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
mmmmmmmm... backcountry skiing deep in the wilderness in snow that flies over your head on every turn?
I guess that tells you what I want to do when I am not listening to RP at work.
The groove is great, but where's the song? I keep waiting for something to happen, but it doesn't. And I really like MM&W, at least what I've heard here.
Hmmmmmmmm. Acid Jazz.
Nice.
(One for all the Brits who enjoyed the fast show.)
Nice cut from a superb album.
What's a good activity to accompany this song? Cutting a long stalk of celery? What matches this groove.....?
Cool as ice!
happy...I was at the MMW show in Boulder, CO last weekend. Very nice show - I believe they played two tunes off this latest album, and much material from Combustication and even older stuff from Friday Afternoon in the Universe. A very nice show.
smoove...
I heard the riff from I'm In With The In Crowd by Pet Clark.
Via Pollstar (above)
Wed 12/07/05 Raleigh, NC Lincoln Theatre
Fri 12/09/05 Charlotte, NC Neighborhood Theatre
Sat 12/10/05 Asheville, NC Orange Peel
elokin2141 wrote:
awesome live as well
ArbiterOfGoodTaste wrote:Weird; I totally disagree. I love their albums, I love live music, especially with improvisation, but I have fallen asleep at two of their shows. They too often let the groove disappear into quiet rattling and stuff, which I find incredibly boring. I've sworn off seeing them live anymore, but still love their studio work.
Gotta second that one. I, too, have found that to be the case with these guys. I've heard bootlegs where they've grooved with the best of them, but the times I have heard them live, they've done the free jazz thing where I just end up feeling lost in the end.
That being said, I do like this number.
trout_fisher wrote:
evoked a synaptic response akin to being wasted and finding your enjoyment escalating with the seconds, then suddenly.. you start thinking.. hang on... do I like this? and the same thing you were loving starts making you feel kinda nauseous. It might well pass and get to being good again.
Perfectly explained...
This is reminding me of Weather Report.
Which would be nice to hear-here.
The more I hear from this bunch, the more I find myself liking them. I'd like to hear some more from them before I'd consider purchasing anything though.
evoked a synaptic response akin to being wasted and finding your enjoyment escalating with the seconds, then suddenly.. you start thinking.. hang on... do I like this? and the same thing you were loving starts making you feel kinda nauseous. It might well pass and get to being good again.
Maybe I'm just high. British time, mind you.
Nice hybrid latter-day jazz. Vince Guaraldi meets lounge.
Roverfish wrote:
In these shoes?
Likeable tune, though a little light on substance, IMO.
Light on substance is what makes rockabilly great! You are right.
In these shoes?
Likeable tune, though a little light on substance, IMO.
Makes me wish I was a super-cool guy with a closet full of tailored tuxes, a garage full of expensive sports cars, and a kitchen full of martinis in crystal stemware. 8)
Very trippy...a bit of Galactic meets Marc Moulin (Telex)
Its just okay. Makes me want to listen to TORTOISE
Wake me up when this is over. Not a good lunchtime song. 
I'm sure I'd give this a 6 at 3am, it rates a 2 at noon.
peace
I'm sure I'd give this a 6 at 3am, it rates a 2 at noon.
peaceI love the drum and bass tracks on this piece of ART! Wonderful!
elokin2141 wrote:
awesome live as well
Weird; I totally disagree. I love their albums, I love live music, especially with improvisation, but I have fallen asleep at two of their shows. They too often let the groove disappear into quiet rattling and stuff, which I find incredibly boring. I've sworn off seeing them live anymore, but still love their studio work.
awesome live as well
i LOVE mmw - thanks rp, keep it up.
Diggin' this jazzy groove this morning - thanks, Bill!
They are one of the best jazz bands.
ice 9??
Deep 6.