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The year of "Sgt. Pepper"
And "Are You Experienced"
Into a suburb of heaven
Yeah it should have been forever
It all seemed to make so much sense
But after a while you realise time flies
And the best thing that you can do
Is take whatever comes to you
'Cause time flies
She said luck is all you make it
You just reach out and take it
Now let's dance a while
She said nothing ever happens
If you don't make it happen
And if you can't laugh then smile
But after a while you realise time flies
And the best thing that you can do
Is take whatever comes to you
'Cause time flies
And laughing under summer showers
Is still the way I see you now
How does time break down?
With no marker, things slow down
A conference of the strange
And your family is deranged
I could tell you what I'm thinking
While we sit here drinkin'
But I'm not sure where to start
You see there's something wrong here
I'm sorry if I'm not clear
Can you stop smoking your cigar?
But after a while you realise time flies
And the best thing that you can do
Is take whatever comes to you
'Cause time flies
And the coat you wore to Alton Towers
Is still the way I see you now
wait. . . .
And for someone who publicly criticizes another band for sounding like an "embarrassing parody of Led Zeppelin," Wilson should think twice before lifting so clearly from Pink Floyd's catalogue, as has been mentioned here by many RP listeners.
but unfortunately this is not a full version.
Arpeggio breaks sharply ((
So the most beautiful part is absent here,
the most hypnotic progressive-rock part with slow and very deep transitions and sophisticated rhythms .
This is incredible live version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oAcw7lozFA
Exactly as it is supposed to be... an ode to the period in life when they still played throughout the world. Paying his respects to the artistry and lyrics of one of the greatest rock bands in history, by another one of the same - though be it on a smaller scale. Had history swapped them they could have easily done the same job and achieved the same spot in history.
Clemens... making it right with God... state of grace... it's the only
thing that matters.... I can't just reach out and take it... but I sure can ask for it!
And Cue: Emmylou Harris: Deeper Well. It fills my thoughts
in perfectly. ~~~> I was always looking for that deeper well... and
well... the Catholic Mass saves me.
That ...and a whole lotta RadioParadise!!! I bow down to you for always playing such amazing music that makes one think and feel with an option to share.
Bless Your Hearts dear Rebecca and Bill! Much Love from Canada.
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Hearing this song for the first time... :) ... and I second your rating.
Alton Towers, ha.
The fact that he participated with passion on the Tim Smith tribute album got me started. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPszC-.. )
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake.
A certain look in the eye and an eeeeeeeeee-z smile..
More than a riff; they've borrowed heavily from Pink Floyd's Animals. Personally, I think it's an homage, as the lyrics reference Sgt Pepper and Are You Experienced and "Can you stop smoking your cigar?"
"You've got to be be crazy. Gotta have a real need...
I think it's duplicated rather than sampled...
(Cue the giant inflatable pig)
That I'm a little bit confuuuused.
About what? I can help. Do you mean that this sounds like a fraternal twin of PF and Animals? Yes, I may concur. But the universe does not copyright or impose a quota on genius.
That I'm a little bit confuuuused.
Ha That was my first thought when this song opened...
The strumming in this song is sort of reminiscent of "Tin Man" by America in some spots, maybe a little more than it sounds like "Dogs" to me. Still, as you know, it's just a syncopated style of guitar strumming which has been around long before any of those bands.
Good catch on America's 'Tin Man'. I miswrote Sheep, but it was Dogs by Pink Floyd that I had in mind.
Steven Wilson uses a similar syncopated style of guitar strumming in 'My Book of Regrets' on his recent 4 1/2 CD release.
Gimme a break. This is not Sheep. FWIW, I know the Animals CD really well; it is my favourite Pink Floyd album.
Though it does remind me of an America song from the early 1970s.
The strumming in this song is sort of reminiscent of "Tin Man" by America in some spots, maybe a little more than it sounds like "Dogs" to me. Still, as you know, it's just a syncopated style of guitar strumming which has been around long before any of those bands.
Damn! I was just going to make the same comment. It is almost exactly the same song. Yuck!
Gimme a break. This is not Sheep Dogs. FWIW, I know the Animals CD really well (or I thought I did -hehe- ); it is my favourite Pink Floyd album.
Though it does remind me of an America song from the early 1970s.
Absoeffinlutely
Damn! I was just going to make the same comment. It is almost exactly the same song. Yuck!
Absoeffinlutely
amazing melody! guys gather together again for a world tour, modern music lacks such talents
потрясающая мелодия. ребята, соберитесь вместе снова для мирового турне, современной музыкальной сцене не хватает таких талантов
Porcupine Tree and Steve Wilson are consistently top on my list. Yes I like the old traditional progressive stuff as well but heading forward this guy has it all. You would be surprised all the set work he’s done with other bands. I ran into him like 12-15 years ago when he did some set work with Marillon back when Fish was still with them. Great stuff. And actually they are a good band to hear live which is hard to do on the progressive stuff. Don’t think the tree has put out a CD that I didn’t like. Sure not all the songs are top on my list but as a whole..
Cheers Steve and keep up the good work!! And thanks Bill.. Keep up the good work.. You da man..
Just saw Steven Wilson at a small venue in Minneapolis a few weeks ago. He put on a great show. His latest solo album really has a lot of early prog rock influences (Yes, Rush...) and reminds me of early PT stuff.
I've not heard any Marillion here. Are they not liked?
I'm stunned how little air play Porcupine Tree receives. They're definitely at the top of my list. Everyone that I introduce this band to become instant fans. I've seen this band 4 times live and they are incredible. We love you guys in Toronto. There is so much pure talent. Keep playing them, love hearing them.
Porcupine Tree and Steve Wilson are consistently top on my list. Yes I like the old traditional progressive stuff as well but heading forward this guy has it all. You would be surprised all the set work he’s done with other bands. I ran into him like 12-15 years ago when he did some set work with Marillon back when Fish was still with them. Great stuff. And actually they are a good band to hear live which is hard to do on the progressive stuff. Don’t think the tree has put out a CD that I didn’t like. Sure not all the songs are top on my list but as a whole..
Cheers Steve and keep up the good work!! And thanks Bill.. Keep up the good work.. You da man..
I've not heard any Marillion here. Are they not liked?
This is getting to be a common criticism of RP, which really doesn't take into account that they do 'concept' albums that tell a story, usually from one or two subjective viewpoints. So the lyrics usually aren't about grand profound philosophical wossnames, but about subjective feelings and events, such as a guy having a heart attack in a layby (in The Incident), or a troubled adolescent contemplating suicide (Fear of a Blank Planet). Each song has to be considered in the context of its album, for all that it can stand alone musically.
Nicely put. That's exactly why I like PT but have a hard time finding time to listen to them - you have to be in the mood to listen to a whole album to really appreciate it. (It also takes a lot of room on my limited-space iPod.)
There's that and it also seems as if many of the posters here seem to think that all music was "invented" some time in the mid-1960s, regardless of their ages.
That guitar riff, and the cut overall, is Pink Floyd-ish. Which is not at all a bad thing.
That's what happens with a younger audience however they might eventually catch up. I saw PT on their opening night of The Incident tour in Seattle. It was very memorable. Saw the other great progressive rock drummer (Neil Peart) at the PT show.
Unfortunately, the lyrics suck.
And here I thought this style of song pre-dated Animals (Sheep err Dogs, thx to Proclivities).
As FR explains, in the context of the Incident album, the lyrics are very a propos for suburban dwellers.
Love Animals but this is better.
Who says that nobody matches Gilmour on guitar is either a fan or has a severe
ear problem. I could mention 100 guitarists IMMEDEATELY that are "better" than
the 72-year old stadium-synthie popper! In my opinion this "Pap" is nothing but
boring - endlessly boring!
It's no longer 1978, dudes!
He's so wrong...
It's still 1972!
This is getting to be a common criticism of RP, which really doesn't take into account that they do 'concept' albums that tell a story, usually from one or two subjective viewpoints. So the lyrics usually aren't about grand profound philosophical wossnames, but about subjective feelings and events, such as a guy having a heart attack in a layby (in The Incident), or a troubled adolescent contemplating suicide (Fear of a Blank Planet). Each song has to be considered in the context of its album, for all that it can stand alone musically.
Unfortunately, the lyrics suck.
Yeah, and I can also IMMEDIATELY mention 100 better spellers and grammarians.
Crank.
In all fairness, I believe English is Stingray's 2nd language.
Who says that nobody matches Gilmour on guitar is either a fan or has a severe
ear problem. I could mention 100 guitarists IMMEDEATELY that are "better" than
the 72-year old stadium-synthie popper! In my opinion this "Pap" is nothing but
boring - endlessly boring!
It's no longer 1978, dudes!
Yeah, and I can also IMMEDIATELY mention 100 better spellers and grammarians.
Crank.
He's easily my favorite current drummer. And he's put a ton of stuff on YouTube explaining his technique. The man is a true artist who seeks to share his talents.
Nostalgia.
A life well lived.
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Gentlemen, this is one of the reasons I love RP so much! Thanks to you both for adding such content to the comment sections here, especially when discussion of Gilmour and Wilson is the topic!
Who says that nobody matches Gilmour on guitar is either a fan or has a severe
ear problem. I could mention 100 guitarists IMMEDEATELY that are "better" than
the 72-year old stadium-synthie popper! In my opinion this "Pap" is nothing but
boring - endlessly boring!
It's no longer 1978, dudes!
I am a crazy big fan of the Floyd and the Tree, and I would say no one touches David Gilmour on guitar playing, no one. But Steve Wilson is an incredible songwriter; he writes 95% of the PT music/themes, while also having 3-4 side projects that also continuously release music. And that is something that Gilmour couldn't match.
And yes, this song has so much ANIMALS influence, and that is a good thing. Somewhere Gilmour is nodding his head and saying "I'm quite the fan of this Porcupine Tree here, good show boys."
Relayer: I have a lot of respect for your opinion. For various reasons. Among other things, our tastes overlap or correlate rather tightly. But for whatever reason with Gilmour who I enjoy and respect, I find myself still 'listening'. With Steven Wilson, I do listen but most of the time I simply forget that I am listening.
Fripp is a better guitarist but I still 'listen' far too often. There are plenty of better technicians than Wilson but few come close in terms of the lead and layered guitars in terms of melody and raw emotion.
Must admit I do find the comparisons to Pink Floyd Animals amusing. Makes me wonder if those folks have listened to modern pop and rock music much beyond the well known, salient material like PF.
And make no mistake. Animals is a great CD. Sheep is a wonderful song.
At one point, this discussion is like lining up 1/2 a dozen top notch bourbons and sour-mash whiskeys and deciding which one is best.
best wishes
Porcupine Tree and Steve Wilson are consistently top on my list. Yes I like the old traditional progressive stuff as well but heading forward this guy has it all. You would be surprised all the set work he’s done with other bands. I ran into him like 12-15 years ago when he did some set work with Marillon back when Fish was still with them. Great stuff. And actually they are a good band to hear live which is hard to do on the progressive stuff. Don’t think the tree has put out a CD that I didn’t like. Sure not all the songs are top on my list but as a whole..
Cheers Steve and keep up the good work!! And thanks Bill.. Keep up the good work.. You da man..
I am a crazy big fan of the Floyd and the Tree, and I would say no one touches David Gilmour on guitar playing, no one. But Steve Wilson is an incredible songwriter; he writes 95% of the PT music/themes, while also having 3-4 side projects that also continuously release music. And that is something that Gilmour couldn't match.
And yes, this song has so much ANIMALS influence, and that is a good thing. Somewhere Gilmour is nodding his head and saying "I'm quite the fan of this Porcupine Tree here, good show boys."
You lost all credibility as soon as I saw a 10 for a ZZ Top song.
LMAO!
I think I can understand how they would sound not very good on a first listen, but really, if you dig around all the endless amount of good music they've done for the past 10 years, I'm sure you'll like some of it. And when you start to like some of it, then you'll gradually end up liking all of it. And then you'll realize that Steven Wilson is one of the most incredibly talented musicians around and that Porcupine Tree has an incredible portfolio of good albums, one after the other. PT is not my favourite band, but they're definitely my favourite discography (what I mean is that my favourite bands have not regularly released so many good albums).
P.S.: Forgot to say that I have Bill to thank for that. I had listened to PT before but it never rang a bell. After so many listens here (and after building the huge respect I have for Bill's taste for music), I ended up listening to Even Less and after that it's history.
Well said !!
How about America? Probably a few others with a similar strummed guitar rhythm too.
Personally, I think that Steven Wilson is a much better guitarist and song-writer than Gilmour. Now that you bring it up.
You lost all credibility as soon as I saw a 10 for a ZZ Top song.
RP! - It's time to get over Porcupine Tree... They are just too weak.
jberko wrote:
Really?
jberko: Yes, really. I'm with you, misterbearbaby. I've given them a chance here on RP, over and over. Zero. I have immense respect for RP's taste, but I literally tune out whenever a PT song comes on.
Better than Animals and I do like Animals.
... like an arrow. But fruit flies like a banana.
scrubbrush wrote:
i was born in '67
the year of Sgt. Pepper
and Are your Experienced
?
i cant explain it, but those lyrics were an immediate turn off to the song... and i like a lot of the PT i hear on RP
I think I can understand how they would sound not very good on a first listen, but really, if you dig around all the endless amount of good music they've done for the past 10 years, I'm sure you'll like some of it. And when you start to like some of it, then you'll gradually end up liking all of it. And then you'll realize that Steven Wilson is one of the most incredibly talented musicians around and that Porcupine Tree has an incredible portfolio of good albums, one after the other. PT is not my favourite band, but they're definitely my favourite discography (what I mean is that my favourite bands have not regularly released so many good albums).
P.S.: Forgot to say that I have Bill to thank for that. I had listened to PT before but it never rang a bell. After so many listens here (and after building the huge respect I have for Bill's taste for music), I ended up listening to Even Less and after that it's history.
Really?
's ANIMALS album (circa 1978)....
My thoughts exactly... but still, this band has come unto their own. I saw the m twice last year, and Floyd does not hold a candle to them live.
's ANIMALS album (circa 1978)....
I give you a 5/10 on your trolling skillz.
Try again.
Oh, and Porcupine Tree is absolutely awesome.
horstman wrote:
Please play the full length studio version of this song and not this cut down "made for radio" version. This version goes against everything that this station stands for in its truncated version. I can't even listen to it since I have the full length version memorized in my mind (like the rest of the incident - it really is one song remember?).
What's next? Commercials?
At the risk of angering the massive PT fanbase on these boards:
I still don't get these guys, and I love Pink Floyd. The difference, to me, is that Pink Floyd had good songwriting. These folks seem to just wander and bombast and noodle.
Oh, that's right, Pink Floyd never "wandered, bombasted, or noodled". I'm not a huge fan of this band, but I find this to be quite a good tune - nice melody and production, in my opinion.
i was born in '67
the year of Sgt. Pepper
and Are your Experienced
?
i cant explain it, but those lyrics were an immediate turn off to the song... and i like a lot of the PT i hear on RP
I agree. My take of that comment/lyric was sort of a resentment or admission of missing it...
Please play the full length studio version of this song and not this cut down "made for radio" version. This version goes against everything that this station stands for in its truncated version. I can't even listen to it since I have the full length version memorized in my mind (like the rest of the incident - it really is one song remember?).
What's next? Commercials?
...fair critique; certainly they don't have roger waters channeling his muse...still, i think you're selling porcupine tree short on the basis of what you've heard here in isolation - most of what's on radio paradise is taken out of context or substantially edited, which i'm sure as a pink floyd fan you can understand significantly diminishes the significance of certain pieces...
...i'd suggest picking up nil recurring or the incident to listen in their entirety; i think you'll find the longer-form pieces carry much more weight in their original context and length...
roulleau wrote:
At the risk of angering the massive PT fanbase on these boards:
I still don't get these guys, and I love Pink Floyd. The difference, to me, is that Pink Floyd had good songwriting. These folks seem to just wander and bombast and noodle.
At the risk of angering the massive PT fanbase on these boards:
I still don't get these guys, and I love Pink Floyd. The difference, to me, is that Pink Floyd had good songwriting. These folks seem to just wander and bombast and noodle.
Jamunca wrote:
i was born in '67
the year of Sgt. Pepper
and Are your Experienced
?
i cant explain it, but those lyrics were an immediate turn off to the song... and i like a lot of the PT i hear on RP